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How do you convince your significant other that you need a certain gun?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by crystalrose, May 30, 2011.

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  1. crystalrose

    crystalrose Member

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    So after a few visits to various gun shops and shows, and going shooting I have found that I like my boyfriend's glock 23, but what I really love is the Kimber 1911.... Only good things have been said to me about that gun and i think it is a beautiful speciman.... my boyfriend told me currently he cannot justify the expense of a Kimber 1911, but I really want one, so this is where I need everyones help how to convince him to buy one so I can shoot it. We are planning on getting married one day, well I'm making him propose by December. Oh on a side-by-side I shot his Ruger P345 .45 auto and I fired 15 rounds and got 13 out of 15 on the target at 5 yards.
     
  2. Sky

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    Good luck with both endeavors; if he shoots one and does not fall in love with it then you might have a heavy load to push up the hill?
     
  3. hirundo82

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    Have him buy you an engagement gun instead of an engagement ring.

    But seriously, is there a reason you can't just buy it for yourself?
     
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  4. Mags

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    I say honey " I want so and so". She says "ok". What's the big deal?
     
  5. El Mariachi

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    Ruger SR1911? I hear they're all the rage as wedding gifts this year.......
     
  6. Robert

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    Sounds like a very mature adult response to me. Just because we want something does not mean we get it right now. Maybe save up what you can and buy it a little later down the road.
     
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    This thread makes me laugh. I'd happily buy a Kimber for a girlfriend, heck, an Ed Brown or two for the right woman ... but I'd probably be grumbling the whole way to the gun shop if she wanted a Glock!!

    Out of interest, what model of Kimber do you want?
     
  8. Diamondback6

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    Maybe try a lower-cost but still quality 1911 and "step up" to the Kimber when y'all're better off?

    Granted, this is a lot easier for those of us who prefer "plain ol' GI MilSpec look", with the Springfield, Auto-Ordnance and High Standard GI 1911's all being among the more affordable options for the platform...
     
  9. Aiko492

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    Your boyfriend has no idea how lucky he is. I would buy my wife 5 1911's if it would get her more excited (hint less anti) about my shooting/carrying.

    And yes....you do have the power if you choose to use it :-o
     
  10. JerryM

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    Sounds like a very mature adult response to me. Just because we want something does not mean we get it right now. Maybe save up what you can and buy it a little later down the road.

    A major problem with our society is that we want instant gratification. It often results in excessive debt that can ruin families.

    Stay within your means. Wait until you have the money after you are married. Then when you both agree that you can afford it, buy it.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  11. ColtPythonElite

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    So, you have a dude that you are gonna issue an ultimatum to to "make him propose" by December, want him to buy a gun now that he says he can't afford and want us to tell you how to con him into getting it for you?.
     
  12. northark147

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    Well, as my SO does not "make" me do anything, If I determine I have the budget I go buy what I would like too. As for her, if she wants a gun of a certain type she can A buy it herself, or B do what she normally does and wait for one of those gift type occasions. I agree with the guys who pointed out that the guy sounds responsible. Mine settled for a Taurus, until I get around to getting the SIG she really want's. Which I'm thinking will probably show up around Christmas or anniversary time as of course budget doesn't allow until then. Of course if she would refrain from burning so much ammo in her Taurus, my LC9, and the ARs. I could re route my component budget to make some firearm purchases faster.. lol
     
  13. Larry Ashcraft

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    It may be noticed that a couple of posts have disappeared.

    The next idiotic, low road response to this question gets a permanent vacation from THR.

    This is NOT a locker room.

    She is asking a serious question. Either give a serious high road response or stay completely out of the conversation.
     
  14. Old krow

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    I've paid my dues, so I just just buy it and bring it home. She does the same thing, but, we lived according to what JerryM said in his post. Good advise IMHO.
     
  15. Tomcat47

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    AMEN!

    Sure You Are Not LOoking For A Shotgun? :D

    But Seriously! Hope You Get Yourself a Kimber! And Hope You Both Gain The Means To Afford One.

    I will Get MeSelf one...one day! I want the Eclipse Pro 2 myself!

    I actually Think Kimber Makes Some of the Nicest looking 1911's

    Like Above.... Which Model Are You After? There are a Lot of decent 1911's in the Crock!..Oops Glock... Price range.

    Taurus PT1911 ( Just Got one of these For Myself and I Love IT! )
    Ruger SR1911 ( Relatively New On Market )
    RIA ( Hear Good Things? )
    And there are plenty others as well... You can probably even nab a Colt for the price of a glock..
     

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    Well, you aren't married yet, so you can still get what you want. I have several expensive hobbies besides firearms, and sometimes I wish I had bought a canoe before I got married so I'd have one now. If there are things you want, get them while you can, before you have to convince someone else of it.

    A few weeks ago, I traded a revolver for a rifle, and my non-gun appreciating wife was a bit concerned. I tried the old "Im trading this itty bitty gun for a much bigger one." She saw through it. Then I told her that my revolver could hit out to 100 yards, with appropriate ammo/skill, but I wasn't that skillful. However...this rifle can reach out to 1000 yards with the right ammo/skill, and is something I was to pursue. She relented eventually, but we had to reach a compromise. Compromise and communication are what marriage is all about. So...the lesson is: if you want something for nothing, get it while you are single. (I love marriage though, please don't get me wrong)
     
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    Lol I was thinking the same thing!
     
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    +1 to Mags
     
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    My wife doesn't ask permission to buy shoes or clothes, and I don't ask if I can buy a gun or related accessories.
    jim
     
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    I'm a big kid. I don't have to justify anything to anyone.
     
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    I'm a little concerned about your desire to have "him buy it so you can shoot it". And what's with his statement about 'not being able to afford it right now'?

    Sounds to me like some sort of plan exists and you want him to break his part of the deal as a favor to you.

    Whatever, it's your life, live it as you see fit.


    Here is what I did when my wife asked for her own gun. I set a little money aside until I could cover the deal, gave her the money and then I took her and made her buy it. She got exactly what she wanted and continues to be very happy with the choice. A few weeks latter I had enough money to get myself a matching copy. so I did.

    Maybe your expressed desire has inspired your boyfriend to do something along these same lines. I advise a bit of patience.
     
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    It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission
     
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    This was my first thought as well. Instant gratification is a wonderful thing. But IMHO, breaking the budget for a gun is irresponsible.
    I recommend that you talk to you local gun shop and see if they have a lay away option. Win-Win, you get what you want and the budget stays under control.
     
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    This is my fault. Crystalrose is my girlfriend of one year and six months with something in change. She met me while I was finishing up law school, my ex left me in the first semester of my last year of law school. The current girlfriend and bride-to-be is crystalrose. She stuck by me while I prepared for the Bar, twice, cleaned for me when I needed, cooked for me when I need, loved me when I needed, forgave when I needed, and has been a constant friend and companion all through this crazy time in life. I'm 26 and she's 25. She told me that after two years of being together I had to make a choice of getting married or not. I can't rightly blame her, she's smart for saying, I've seen too many women spend years with guys just to get passed up for the next girl.

    Put it simply, she'll shoot with me whenever I want to. If all the bills are getting paid and money is getting put in the bank, I can pretty much buy myself(or herself) a firearm when I want to. If I tell her we have to work together in my carpet-tile-hardwood floor-marble-furniture cleaning business on the weekend to save money up to blow recklessly(because all the money we earn during the week being responsible wage earners goes in the bank) she'll do it. She'll put in a twelve hour day with me moving equipment and dealing with my intense and sometimes sour attitude and still cook me something to eat before I pass out. I've worked 16 hour days and not gotten home till past 10pm at night to find a hot and fresh meal waiting for me. We are still ironing out our relationship and just because we get engaged doesn't mean were in a race to the altar. She just wants some security. We're both too young to be married, but too old not be nowadays. I love her, I want to give her world, and I'm happy she likes shooting.

    She said the coolest thing yesterday more or less, "I wish Florida would just get open carry so I could put a Kimber on my hip and not have to carry it in my purse." She understands I'm miserly with my money. She's okay with my concept of "what you earn in one month should pay your bills for two months" as far as savings. My business is growing slowly but growing, and she's intelligent and hardworking enough to manage it and some employees for me when I'm doing my law career full time (which she knows will mean 70+ hours a week). I know I'll never find another woman better to be my business partner, my best friend, mother of my children, and shooting partner.

    She wants a Kimber, I don't remember the model but I'll post a picture we found off gunbroker. Mind you she wants a "beautiful" gun and I don't mind her having one so long as she can shoot it fairly. She did well at 5 yards with my Ruger P345 for the first time every really shooting (I had her shoot a 9mm and .22 first, I just wanted her to get over her recoil fears before really shooting on my Glock 23). So there's a range next to us that rents a 1911, I think it's a Sig so maybe she'll go for that. If she can handle 50 rounds fairly at 20 feet and she doesn't get frustrated or upset than a 1911 may be in her future. Of course after she made her post we went over the order of engagement ring and pistol purchase. I have to purchase a $400 engagement ring she wants before I can buy another pistol. So if I buy the ring but don't give it to her, it's okay if I buy say a Springfield 1911 Mil Spec(one I want as a "working gun") and have her practice with it.

    I explained to her that a Kimber 1911 is like a lifetime gun, on par with say a Colt or Sig. You buy it, feed it, take care of it, and shoot it till falls apart which with the right maintenance and visits back to the factory, can be a lifetime for some guns. She's okay with that. Granted she wants an M4 also which again I have no problem buying. I'm saving our loose change(pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters) for whatever beautiful gun she wants. Given I spend cash rather than use debit or credit cards normally, I easily have at least $.50 in my pocket each day if not a few dollars in change. I sent in my oath certificate for bar admission and I'll have my Bar car in a few weeks. I got word I'll be certified for Circuit Civil Mediation in six to eight weeks, I'm already certified for family and occassionaly getting family mediations, and plenty of lawyers told me to call them back to mediate for them when I got admitted to the bar so <fingers cross> I can buy myself a Springfield Mil Spec and my fiancee a Kimber in six months or so, oh and an engagement ring.

    So on to finally ending this little bit, I'm hoping Ruger comes out with a "beautiful" 1911 so I can save on cash and have a company I and many other Ruger firearm owners have come to trust and cherish for their quality and excellent customer service.

    Oh and please don't post any pictures of $2,000 guns, thanks ahead of time.
     

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  25. ATBackPackin

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    First off I just want to say welcome to THR Crystal.

    After reading the OP and every response I have two questions for you.

    1. Can you afford the Kimber right now?

    2. What is it about the Kimber that you like?

    Number one is pretty straight forward and it is a question that only the two of you can answer. Two can get a little trickier. Is it how it fit's your hand? Is it the aesthetics? Is it the name brand? Or is it all of the above?

    I also think it is important to ask if you have looked at any other 1911's? If the Kimber is a stretch on your budget right now I think it is important to point out that you can purchase a less expensive 1911 now and customize it as you can afford to, to make it more aesthetically pleasing to you.

    I can certainly understand why some people want a gun that they think is pretty or beautiful, but with a gun more so than most things, function is definitely more important. That's not to say you cannot have both, but if you can only have one, function comes first and then form latter.

    I wish you luck in both endeavors.
    Shawn
     
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