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I cant carry in these states, should I even bother trying for a permit?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by JLStorm, Sep 4, 2007.

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  1. JLStorm

    JLStorm Member

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    The states in red on the attached map are states that I cannot carry in. Many of them are may issue, one or two is shall issue with funny rules, and a few no issue. I would appreciate the input of anyone who has any knowledge of these, especially the may issue states let me know if its even worth trying to get a permit or if they will just say no unless I know someone.

    If you cant see the map, the states I cant carry in that issue non-res permits are:
    OR NE, IA, NY, SC, MA, RI, NJ, MD.

    EDIT: It looks like NJ, NY, MD don't give out permits unless your special so they are out.



    I travel to all of these on a regular basis so if I could get a permit it would be great.

    Thanks for any help.
     

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  2. Librarian

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    California has no reciprocity and does not issue to out-of-state residents. You'd have to be a resident, and since you're smart enough not to do that, you probably should write off carry in California.
     
  3. granuale

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    Wow you really travel to all of these on a regular basis? If you plan to carry there anyway, then yes definitely apply. If you're ever busted for carry in any of those jurisdictions and decide to fight the charge you or your attorney can then argue that you tried your very best to obtain permission to be able to defend yourself.

    If you will not carry where you don't have prior approval to do so hopefully people can answer about your likelihood on a state by state basis. I can confidently say you will not get one in N.J. absent some major political pull.

    Scott
     
  4. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    I believe you're out of luck for WI and IL, no permits there.
     
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    CA - If you're not a state resident that lives in one of the easier-to-get counties, forget it. At best, you *might* get a house in a good county, and convince the local sheriff of the county you travel to most that your business is a high-value one (you're a jeweler that carries gems or precious metals, or a technical repair person that carries LOTS of high-value technology around) and *perhaps* get that sheriff to grant a permit, but then it would probably be restricted to that county only, and possibly only within certain hours. Best of luck to you.
     
  6. JLStorm

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    Thanks guys I took CA, IL, WI out, I also took DC out because I know there is just no chance of that happening either.
     
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    No non-resident permit in HI either. Actually, no permits period!
     
  8. U.S.SFC_RET

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    You can drop Maryland off of your list as well. They will take your money and application but you won't get a concealed carry permit. Regardless if it is a may issue state or not.
     
  9. zoom6zoom

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    Yeah, MD only rarely issues even to residents. I know ONE person with a permit in MD, and he's had it over twenty years. Don't waste your time.

    From my research, MA isn't too hard to get as a non-res (some say it's easier for a non resident than a subject) but is very $$$$, hundred bucks per year, and only good for a year.


    SC doesn't issue non resident permits, or recognize NR's from the states they do honor.
     
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    Yes, forget about Maryland, unless you can cultivate a relationship with the right politicians. ($$$$$$$)
     
  11. geekWithA.45

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    You can forget Jersey.

    T'aint gonna happen.

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  12. Cacique500

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    You can get a SC permit, but if I remember correctly to you have to own property there. There is a bill currently making it's way through the legislature that will take reciprocity decisions away from S.L.E.D. and make SC recognize any state that recognizes them. Rumor says it has a good chance of passing.

    It's the only "local" state I can't carry in and it makes me crazy to take my gun out of my holster and put it in the glove box when I cross the border...stupid!!

    If you figure out Oregon, let me know.
     
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    Having carried in Oregon for several years, you must live in a contiguous state (a state that shares it borders) to get a non-resident permit there. They honor no permit other than their own. It is also at sheriff discretion, but in most counties it is pretty much shall issue. If you're in CA, ID, NV or WA you may be in luck. If not...
     
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    MA is actualy good for out of staters. where as residents apply to the local COP out of staters apply directly to the state police. and they are more likely to issue than most of the towns around here
     
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    I believe your out of luck in NY. I've never heard of anyone with a nonresident permit.
     
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    What state do you live in? It looks like you may be better off than me, except in SC. Here's the map of Michigan's reciprocity:

    For those who can't see the graphic, I cannot legally carry in:
    CA, OR, HI, NV, NE, IA, IL, WI, NY, ME, RI, MA, CT, NJ, MD, DC

    And WV says, "Pending approvals," whatever that means.

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  17. JLStorm

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    I have PA, NH, ME, CT, NV, FL, UT permits. I reside in PA on most weekends but I am everywhere else during the week. The NH permit is now redundant, but every other permit I have gives me a few more states here and there.



    Thanks so far guys, I have crossed NJ, MD, and NY off my list. I had heard a while ago that NJ and MD were about impossible to get but I forgot about that. As far as HI, I can live without that one as I have only been there twice, I dont know why I left that one on there.
     
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    NE only issues to residents. NE also does not recognize any other state's permit.
     
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    To get technical about it, WI is open carry legal, you'll just likely get harrassed by LEO's from what I understand...so do so only if you're willing to accept the risk of getting arrested...
     
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    Kiss NY off your list unless you live in upstate.

    MRI
     
  21. S&Wfan

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    I too live in Georiga and travel five states on business occasionally. It drives me nuts also to have to unload my firearms and stow 'em in the trunk before going into South Carolina.

    Heck, I even leave my preferred, and expensive 1911 at home, rather than have it stolen (confiscated) by some local Sheriff.

    Georgia has no reciprocacy with SC simply because SC's laws say that they only reciprocate with states with equal, or more stringent CCW qualification rules than theirs.

    Ironically, if I lived in SC I'd instantly qualify for a resident license due to my military training, membership in a shooting club, and several other factors.

    That's what's so crazy about the various CCW gun laws. IMHO, these laws should honor other state's licenses just like they do for out-of-state drivers licenses.

    Maybe one day . . .

    T.

    PS: What's the deal on owning land in SC allowing an out-of-stater to get a CCW license there? How much land do you have to own? Could I buy a square foot or so from some kind soul and then qualify?;) I'd surely like to be able to protect myself when I cross the river!!!

    T.
     
  22. Cacique500

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    I tried to find the specifics last night but couldn't. If you look up the non-resident app form you'll see it pertains to property. I was thinking the same thing...get 20 people to go in on an acre of swamp land and be done with it. :D

    What I don't understand is why SC and FL don't reciprocate - very similar training requirements - unless there's some small detail I'm missing. Anyway, of all the places for my parents to retire, they sure picked the WRONG state for CCW!

    Glad this thread came up thought - I thought my FL was valid in WA state and I carried there for a few days last winter and after rechecking the maps...well.....oops. Won't make that mistake again... :eek:
     
  23. zoom6zoom

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    Maybe they can't find themselves on a map.
     
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    Iowa info here: www.iowacarry.org

    I an not certain, but I believe Iowa has no reciprocity and does not issue to out-of-state residents.

    Joe
     
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