I cant carry in these states, should I even bother trying for a permit?

[B. Adams]

Last I knew, Iowa does issue to nonresidents, but as hard as it is for a resident to get one I don't know what your chances are. Iowa nonresident permits are obtained through the Commissioner of Public Safety.

Good luck. For a central midwestern state they have terrible gun laws.

 

[W.E.G.]

You can get a SC permit, but if I remember correctly to you have to own property there. There is a bill currently making it's way through the legislature that will take reciprocity decisions away from S.L.E.D. and make SC recognize any state that recognizes them. Rumor says it has a good chance of passing.

I sure hope so.

It annoys me to no end that I have to be disarmed when I go to visit family there.

 

[Muzzy_B]

What I don't understand is why SC and FL don't reciprocate - very similar training requirements - unless there's some small detail I'm missing. Anyway, of all the places for my parents to retire, they sure picked the WRONG state for CCW!

From what I can tell from recently going through the process of applying for my out of state Florida permit is, SLED won't recognize a Florida permit because Florida doesn't require a class room course with a written test and range test as part of the CWP application process. Instead they only require proof of training (which in my case was a hunter's safety certificate from 15 years ago involving no handgun training whatsoever), or one of the few other listed documents.

When I took my SC CWP course, there were people in the class that had never touched a handgun before. At one point I refused to step onto the range with one of the qualifiers because I was literally afraid of taking a hit from a stray. Nonetheless, she paid her hundred bucks so she was allowed to complete the course. We all passed our "exam" and nobody failed during range qualification (including the previously mentioned individual) so we're all licensed to carry now.

There is a bill currently making it's way through the legislature that will take reciprocity decisions away from S.L.E.D. and make SC recognize any state that recognizes them. Rumor says it has a good chance of passing.

Great. Maybe I should cancel my $117 check if it's not too late and wait on the politicians to decide.

 

[JLStorm]

From what I can tell from recently going through the process of applying for my out of state Florida permit is, SLED won't recognize a Florida permit because Florida doesn't require a class room course with a written test and range test as part of the CWP application process. Instead they only require proof of training (which in my case was a hunter's safety certificate from 15 years ago involving no handgun training whatsoever), or one of the few other listed documents.

I dont know if that is the reason, I have my NV permit which requires more training and qualification than any other permit I have heard of, especially if you want to carry in clark county (vegas). SC doesnt have reciprocity with NV either though.

 

[javacodeman]

PS: What's the deal on owning land in SC allowing an out-of-stater to get a CCW license there? How much land do you have to own? Could I buy a square foot or so from some kind soul and then qualify? I'd surely like to be able to protect myself when I cross the river!!!

I'll look into "how much it takes" and I'll also ask my friend (who is a realtor) what kind of contract could be worked out to CYA all parties involved.

If these things work out, I'd be willing to part sovereignty over a few square inches of my yard.

As far as NV goes, IIRC, SC only reciprocates with states with equal or more stringent training (previously mentioned) and with states that also honor their license. Maybe the problem lies with NV instead of SC.

I'll read up and make a few calls and post what I've learned.

java

 

[javacodeman]

Okay, after a quick check, it seems like any amount is enough:

SECTION 23-31-210. Definitions.

As used in this article:

(1) "Resident" means an individual who is present in South Carolina with the intention of making a permanent home in South Carolina or military personnel on permanent change of station orders.

(2) "Qualified nonresident" means an individual who owns real property in South Carolina, but who resides in another state.

Edit Update (to avoid a triple post--hey I got the answers faster than I expected ):
I talked with my friend, he advised that restrictions on buying unaddressable parcels of land have tightened in recent years due to some water access scams. Anyways, he advised what someone else has already suggested that is to get several people together. Those people would purchase some small quantity of land that is addressable. These people would legally be "joint tenants". Ownership of this land would pass to heirs and the list of "joint tenants" could be expanded or lowered based on the initial contract entered into by those tenants.

You'll probably not want to buy this land in my area as there is a lot cheaper land in other parts of the state. Otherwise, I'd offer up my friend's services.

Hope this helps!

java

 

[Prince Yamato]

The only way you can have a pistol in NYS in your possession while not traveling is to be a resident of NYS. Period. There is no non-resident pistol permit because you need to be a resident of NYS to even POSSESS a pistol within the state. So cross off NYS.

 

[Condition Plaid]

CA - If you're not a state resident that lives in one of the easier-to-get counties, forget it. At best, you *might* get a house in a good county, and convince the local sheriff of the county you travel to most that your business is a high-value one (you're a jeweler that carries gems or precious metals, or a technical repair person that carries LOTS of high-value technology around) and *perhaps* get that sheriff to grant a permit, but then it would probably be restricted to that county only, and possibly only within certain hours. Best of luck to you.

Many counties in California are nowhere near as bad as described above. Several counties, mostly rural, accept a desire for personal protection as the required 'good cause' for issuance. Orange County, with over 2 million residents, is not that easy, but you sure don't have to be a jeweler or a political contributor to be issued a CCW. I'm neither and was issued with little trouble and with no restrictions as listed above.

 

[Futuristic]

Prince Yamato wrote:

The only way you can have a pistol in NYS in your possession while not traveling is to be a resident of NYS. Period. There is no non-resident pistol permit because you need to be a resident of NYS to even POSSESS a pistol within the state. So cross off NYS.

Not that it is terribly relevant to the thread, BUT just to be pedantic, there are 2 (at least) EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES where Non-Residents may Possess Handguns in New York State.

To wit:
A member or coach of an accredited college or university target pistol team may transport a handgun into or through New York to participate in a collegiate, Olympic or target pistol shooting competition provided that the handgun is unloaded and carried in a locked carrying case and the ammunition is carried in a separate locked container.

And:
Non-resident target shooters may enter or pass through New York State with handguns for the purposes of any NRA approved competition if the competitor has in his possession a copy of the match program, proof of entry and a pistol license from his state of residence. The handgun must be unloaded and transported in a locked opaque container.

Futuristic

 

[Rustynuts]

THIS is why we should have a NATIONAL law permitting the castle doctrine AND CCW and carrying on private/business property. Let the States still do the actual licensing and their own background check if they want (Florida does that now). That way everybody wins and the States still get the money for permits. Wonder if that could ever happen?

 

[Prince Yamato]

Not that it is terribly relevant to the thread, BUT just to be pedantic, there are 2 (at least) EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES where Non-Residents may Possess Handguns in New York State.

That's a good point as well. I'm also a big fan of dispelling myths about NYS gun laws

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

Isn't it amazing that every state that borders Maryland allows concealed carrying rights and I am not talking about carrying money for a business here.
Other states trust us more than the State itself.

 

[Crunker1337]

Rather than deny yourself the ability to personal defense, why not avoid those states?