Man shot by police in Seattle for brandishing a rifle

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if you notice those comments after you post look for a cause and effect correlation.


and lets remember the kids gun was taken a while back as part of a suicide threat incident. bet his dad wishes he hadn't got it back for junior
 
I wouldn't trust the "expert opinion" of some bystander as to whether or not the firearm was loaded with blanks or otherwise. Sorry, I've been one of the first to jump on stupidity perpetrated by LEO's... but I can't blame them for this one. The guy was obviously too drunk & too stupid to be handling a weapon.
 
There's no shortage of stories where some members of law enforcement have made mistakes & even violated rights. There are stories where officers have gone well outside of their authority. I don't think that this is either. I think it's sad... but this guys appears to have behaved recklessly. I won't blame the cops for someone elses stupidity.
 
Sometimes normal people who become despondent and want to commit suicide chicken out and want the cops to do it for them and then chicken out on that too so they get drunk to work up the courage to get themselves in that situation to force the cop's hand.
 
One important issue that hasn't been discussed.

Our very familiarity with firearms may lead us to make assumptions about the safety of the firearm that we assume others to make as well. We know the gun is unloaded or loaded with blanks. We know the gun is harmless as a result. BUT we make a dangerous mistake when we assume that everyone else should know what only we can know about that gun. Answering the door after being notified that the police are there while holding a weapon, even one we know is perfectly safe (even if it was a demilled drill rifle), is the beginning of a horrible mistake. The cops at the door have no way of knowing the weapon isn't loaded. They see the rifle with the bayonet on it and immediately react to the threat. We don't think of ourselves as being a threat, but the cops see the gun in our hands and can't assume anything else so they order us to drop the weapon as the first step in their training in how to deal with an armed individual. If we as the gunowner fail to recognize that they think we're a threat and we react in any other way but to comply with that order our familiarity and private knowledge can get us killed. Even with no bad intent our assumptions can be deadly.
 
Returning rifle after suicide attempt= bad.

Are we expecting to be invaded aliens (the extraterrestrial kind) or something?
You didn't honestly think the illegal aliens are coming from Mexico, did you?
 
What would you do if some drunk guy wearing a nazi uniform who was firing his guns into an alley and then points his gun at you? I don't think it is very sophisticated? Some people just don't deserve to have guns. I am sorry to say this.
 
The gentleman shot in Oakland was unarmed and that thread was locked, yet this one remains open? :confused:
 
The gentleman shot in Oakland was unarmed and that thread was locked, yet this one remains open?

Gentleman? There was a gentleman shot in Oakland? I didn't hear about it.

I did hear about the convicted drug dealer that had 12 cases in 4 years and spent a good part of 2007-2008 in PRISON and just got out late September and was raising hell at the Fruitvale Station with a bunch of thugs.

It is unfortunate that it happened, but he was no gentleman. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
Thank you for proving my point. Now if only you were a Moderator. And LEO.

What does being a LEO have to do with it? Do you know what I do? By your statement, I doubt it. But I have seen your posts before and your political stance.

Here's an interesting tidbit and a life lesson... getting shot by the police, whether justifiably or wrongfully, does not change who you are.

If you are a scumbag before the shooting, you are still a scumbag after the shooting. You're just a scumbag that's been shot, even if the police shot you by mistake.

Heck, even if the police intentionally shot you, the malicious intent by that ONE police officer does not imbue the bullet with magical powers and transform a scumbag into a saint upon contact.

I am not defending the officer's actions in Fruitvale but spare me the whole automatic sainthood speech of every person that's been shot. They are separate issues.
 
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