pacodelahoya
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Would Savage better serve by helping the names of Tancredo and Ron Paul to become better known?
Michael Savage Mulls Presidential Run
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SamTuckerMTNMAN
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go Mike
I think he is just direct.
In today's world of feminization of the male, and we are all SSSOOOOO sensative that could be portrayed as abrasive by some... ...I guess.
Don't underestimate the power of eccentricity.
Michael is very motivating.
Sometimes he drives me crazy....but hey, I can accept some fat with the bacon, when its good bacon. He doesnt mess around when it comes to telling it like it is, and even though I disagree with him sometimes he is the only person in the political scene at all who seems to have ANY BALLS, who speaks truth as he sees it, and admits that its his perspective, if you listen you'll know hes not homophobic, or racist, those are simple propoganda lines to attack him because he recognizes the homosexual agenda (like this crap
and understands that THE WAR ON TERROR IS A SHAM. Socialism will rise to power here without a man of big hard brass balz who will speak the truth and not be afraid of the queer hit men, the mexican mafia, the drug lords, the islamic jihadists, the french in general, or hillary, rosie, and other che guaverites.
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I think he is just direct.
In today's world of feminization of the male, and we are all SSSOOOOO sensative that could be portrayed as abrasive by some... ...I guess.
Don't underestimate the power of eccentricity.
Michael is very motivating.
Sometimes he drives me crazy....but hey, I can accept some fat with the bacon, when its good bacon. He doesnt mess around when it comes to telling it like it is, and even though I disagree with him sometimes he is the only person in the political scene at all who seems to have ANY BALLS, who speaks truth as he sees it, and admits that its his perspective, if you listen you'll know hes not homophobic, or racist, those are simple propoganda lines to attack him because he recognizes the homosexual agenda (like this crap
and understands that THE WAR ON TERROR IS A SHAM. Socialism will rise to power here without a man of big hard brass balz who will speak the truth and not be afraid of the queer hit men, the mexican mafia, the drug lords, the islamic jihadists, the french in general, or hillary, rosie, and other che guaverites.
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Selfdfenz
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Taking this back to firearms
Fascinating thread.
I relocated a while back and for some reason the MS/Savage Nation show airs locally at a time I'm not able to catch it but, IIRC, on one of his old shows he discussed owning firearms and at least one of them was an assault rifle. He went on to say that he didn't actually shoot the thing very often. I can't think of any candidate or potential candidate other than MS I would bet a dime on actually owning an assault rifle.
I'm not aware of MS ever making any statement regarding firearms that wasn't pro 2A. His remarks in general pretty much appeared to me indicative of a strict constitutionalist. (Not sure constitutionalist is a word but it should be)
The core and cross-over voters that elected RR PoUS required one run for the nomination to find out where he stood politically and the second to make up their minds they were d---right well going to vote for him. At least that seemed the case to me. The media will never get over how good RR was at the job.
Perhaps MS isn't serious about running. Lots of $, luck and hard work are required even to be unsuccessful let alone win but it's interesting to speculate. I hope movers and shakers are talking to MS.
Longeyes comments compelling. We need a different voice. What's not PC about borders, language and culture? Like RR, MS would be a new voice & not be the lesser of two evils for a change.
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PS: when you call anyone an "angry white guy" you take a shot at all white guys everywhere, angry or not. Think about it.
PS2: Rush L. owes his success to his plebian origins and applying some aspects of that world view to his show. It was great in the early 90’s. The Rush L. on-air today is a different individual you has become very much a patrician in his own mind, complete with that word view. He’s basically not applicable any longer.
Fascinating thread.
I relocated a while back and for some reason the MS/Savage Nation show airs locally at a time I'm not able to catch it but, IIRC, on one of his old shows he discussed owning firearms and at least one of them was an assault rifle. He went on to say that he didn't actually shoot the thing very often. I can't think of any candidate or potential candidate other than MS I would bet a dime on actually owning an assault rifle.
I'm not aware of MS ever making any statement regarding firearms that wasn't pro 2A. His remarks in general pretty much appeared to me indicative of a strict constitutionalist. (Not sure constitutionalist is a word but it should be)
The core and cross-over voters that elected RR PoUS required one run for the nomination to find out where he stood politically and the second to make up their minds they were d---right well going to vote for him. At least that seemed the case to me. The media will never get over how good RR was at the job.
Perhaps MS isn't serious about running. Lots of $, luck and hard work are required even to be unsuccessful let alone win but it's interesting to speculate. I hope movers and shakers are talking to MS.
Longeyes comments compelling. We need a different voice. What's not PC about borders, language and culture? Like RR, MS would be a new voice & not be the lesser of two evils for a change.
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PS: when you call anyone an "angry white guy" you take a shot at all white guys everywhere, angry or not. Think about it.
PS2: Rush L. owes his success to his plebian origins and applying some aspects of that world view to his show. It was great in the early 90’s. The Rush L. on-air today is a different individual you has become very much a patrician in his own mind, complete with that word view. He’s basically not applicable any longer.
Helmetcase
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Heh, yeah, no kidding. Apparently he believes that "volcanoes cause GW" nonsense too. Would love to have the conversation with him.
If you value the 2A, you better hope he never runs. Nothing would scare voters into the hands of the current Dem leadership faster than that fanatic. It'd be like the Dems running Louis Farrakhan.
rhubarb
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Ah yes, Michael Savage - the Al Sharpton of conservatism.
I don't disagree with Mr. Savage's message, but I want to sometimes because of his confrontational self-aggrandizing demeanor. He's kinda like a keyboard commando out loud.
I don't disagree with Mr. Savage's message, but I want to sometimes because of his confrontational self-aggrandizing demeanor. He's kinda like a keyboard commando out loud.
TrybalRage
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I've never listened to his show, but I read one of his books.
While I agree with his views, he's a loon. Too much wordplay like 'Democrat' (ooh hoo hoo, how witty!) or some other that makes me want to slap him. His book was almost unreadable because of that childish crap.
I still can't believe only 1 guy mentioned Ron Paul.
Run Ron Run!
While I agree with his views, he's a loon. Too much wordplay like 'Democrat' (ooh hoo hoo, how witty!) or some other that makes me want to slap him. His book was almost unreadable because of that childish crap.
I still can't believe only 1 guy mentioned Ron Paul.
Run Ron Run!
longeyes
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Now and then we all have to Be Like Mike.
Not at all the time, not in everything, but sometimes. And now is one of those times.
Savage throws a hard light on the b.s. that is American politics. We must not be afraid of breaking the china, metaphorically. There are people in power who need to be called out. A lot of people. To do this we have to transcend politeness and political correctness and challenge Authority. This makes a lot of people very uncomfortable, but if we don't do it we will shrivel and become serfs.
And we don't have much time. Yesterday I heard Dennis Kucinich trying to explain why We the People need to be protected from free political speech, why we are in danger of being "overwhelmed" by too much information. Holy Baloney! This guy, in his wimpy laid-back way, is uber-scary. Give him some power, backed by autocratic force of arms, and we will be on our knees in a few years, begging for crumbs.
Anger needs to be "managed"--but not removed from the armory of justice.
Not at all the time, not in everything, but sometimes. And now is one of those times.
Savage throws a hard light on the b.s. that is American politics. We must not be afraid of breaking the china, metaphorically. There are people in power who need to be called out. A lot of people. To do this we have to transcend politeness and political correctness and challenge Authority. This makes a lot of people very uncomfortable, but if we don't do it we will shrivel and become serfs.
And we don't have much time. Yesterday I heard Dennis Kucinich trying to explain why We the People need to be protected from free political speech, why we are in danger of being "overwhelmed" by too much information. Holy Baloney! This guy, in his wimpy laid-back way, is uber-scary. Give him some power, backed by autocratic force of arms, and we will be on our knees in a few years, begging for crumbs.
Anger needs to be "managed"--but not removed from the armory of justice.
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Sorry Longeyes but I have to disagree. He is entertainment. Like all the political talk shows, he loves to “talk” down to anyone that has a different opinion than his (conservative or liberal). He does not discuss his position rationally. Callers either agree with him or he calls them idiots. Granted some of the callers are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it could be staged calls. If he wasn’t over the top with his opinions and presentation no one would know who MS is. Being boisterous is his game, its fine for show, but he will look like a fool in an actual debate. Heck his real name is Dr. Weiner, he can’t even be honest about his name.
cbsbyte
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If Michael Savage is going to run in the primary, its clearly shows that the Republican party is clearly bankrupt of any ideas, and will loose the next election.
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Why? Anyone can run.
Besides, MS is many things, but bankrupt of any ideas is not one. Why the guy is a veritable font of ideas. You might disagree with those ideas, but he is a font nonetheless.
Henry Bowman
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What makes you think he would use his on-air persona in a serious debate? He is sharp enough to have defended a PhD dissertation and understands the difference between being a candidate and an entertainer. I say this even though I often disagree with his on-air statements.
Helmetcase
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I think he probably was suggesting that if the GOP couldn't find somebody better, that would indicate they're in big trouble. Or something like that.
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Although he doesn't talk about the gun issue he does CCW and is solidly pro gun.[/quote]
Thanks for the info, that clears up ONE reservation I had about him. I listen to him as the timing of my evening commute (anywhere from 4:30 to 9) and the lousy reception here will allow. But I have not heard much, if ANYTHING from him about 2A.
The other one is one he admits himself per the first post - he's probably got a little less than a snowball's chance in San Fran of winning.
If nothing else, this will HOPEFULLY show the content RINOs that conservatives are sick and tired of them!
Although he doesn't talk about the gun issue he does CCW and is solidly pro gun.[/quote]
Thanks for the info, that clears up ONE reservation I had about him. I listen to him as the timing of my evening commute (anywhere from 4:30 to 9) and the lousy reception here will allow. But I have not heard much, if ANYTHING from him about 2A.
The other one is one he admits himself per the first post - he's probably got a little less than a snowball's chance in San Fran of winning.
If nothing else, this will HOPEFULLY show the content RINOs that conservatives are sick and tired of them!
Marshall
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I would give him a look.
longeyes
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Savage says he stays away from 2A issues because it's a "radio show killer." Take that as you will.
But he's made his pro-2A sentiments very clear, as well as acknowledging that he owns a Glock and an AR-15.
Is Savage an "entertainer?" That description trivializes him. It's true that his specialty is monologue, not dialogue, but that doesn't change the fact that he talks about serious issues seriously and manages, while being serious in content, to be often very humorous in delivery. He is popular because he gives The Rest of Us RELEASE, uninhibitedly saying things many of us have thought and would like to say but don't hear in ordinary public discourse. He is doing "reality radio," that's all, not giving academic lectures.
From what I saw of the last "debates," sanitized as they were, his ability to handle issues and crowds shouldn't be a question. Hillary isn't going to "debate" anyone--and doesn't have to. The next election will not be a matter of debates: the sides have already been drawn and the minds are largely made up.
But he's made his pro-2A sentiments very clear, as well as acknowledging that he owns a Glock and an AR-15.
Is Savage an "entertainer?" That description trivializes him. It's true that his specialty is monologue, not dialogue, but that doesn't change the fact that he talks about serious issues seriously and manages, while being serious in content, to be often very humorous in delivery. He is popular because he gives The Rest of Us RELEASE, uninhibitedly saying things many of us have thought and would like to say but don't hear in ordinary public discourse. He is doing "reality radio," that's all, not giving academic lectures.
From what I saw of the last "debates," sanitized as they were, his ability to handle issues and crowds shouldn't be a question. Hillary isn't going to "debate" anyone--and doesn't have to. The next election will not be a matter of debates: the sides have already been drawn and the minds are largely made up.
romma
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I have heard him make Pro 2nd ammendment statements! He doesn't dwell on the topic, that's for sure though... Probably smart to not dwell.
Malone LaVeigh
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Every time he opens his mouth, right-wingers look stupider.
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We suffer another significant terrorist attack and it will play havoc with the primaries. The Dhimmicrats will suddenly adopt the mantle of war hawks and start second guessing Bush for not being more aggressive. And the MSM will give them a pass.
As for Michael Savage: he'd be a breath of fresh air in a field that is so stupifyingly dreary that it's nearly impossible to distinguish between them.
TrybalRage
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I am shocked this thread is still going. I usually regard the members of this site as being clear-headed realists.
This is not one of those times.
People who are interested in someone who would 'shake up' our government should really look at Ron Paul. You know, a guy with political experience? Someone who isn't just an entertainer? Someone who is extremely pro-2A (actually writing an article about how the 2A is so people could overthrow their government, and equating AR-15's to the muskets of the time) and would actually attract a broad range of people? Someone who is a VERY strict constitutionalist?
Someone who doesn't make up childish names for his enemies?
This is not one of those times.
People who are interested in someone who would 'shake up' our government should really look at Ron Paul. You know, a guy with political experience? Someone who isn't just an entertainer? Someone who is extremely pro-2A (actually writing an article about how the 2A is so people could overthrow their government, and equating AR-15's to the muskets of the time) and would actually attract a broad range of people? Someone who is a VERY strict constitutionalist?
Someone who doesn't make up childish names for his enemies?
longeyes
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Okay, battle joined: care to provide some specifics, please?
I think there are some people on this thread who are confused about the concept of "entertainment." Good entertainment always contains truth--something that can't be said, usually, for politics.
Trybal Rage:
Savage has 10-12 million daily listeners. How many does Ron Paul have?
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I remember listening to Savage when he was discussing the woman from Texas who believed God told her to kill her kids.
He went into great detail how this case would've been handled under Roman law. She would've been put in a sack with a dog, a monkey and a poisonous snake and then tossed in the river. Made a big point over how she deserved this.
Was he litteraly serious?
He went into great detail how this case would've been handled under Roman law. She would've been put in a sack with a dog, a monkey and a poisonous snake and then tossed in the river. Made a big point over how she deserved this.
Was he litteraly serious?
longeyes
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Let me ask YOU a question: Is George Bush "literally serious" about a lot of HIS policies? Are the Democrats?
Is Savage an "extremist?" You decide. Would you characterize the impact of George W.'s hands-off policy on illegal immigration as "extremist?"
I would.
Do you think the AWB was "extremist?"
I do.
We should beware of how the people in power attempt to marginalize anything but their "mainstream" positions.
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