Michael Savage Mulls Presidential Run

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Would you characterize the impact of George W.'s hands-off policy on illegal immigration as "extremist?"

Not only extremist, but a dereliction of his duty as Commander in Chief. Not only extremist, but an impeachable offense. Not only extremist, but a reflection of his disregard for the rule of law. Not only extremist, but Exhibit 1 against him as one of worse presidents. Not only extremist, but a reflection of his abject failure as President of the United States.

Well, you get the idea!
 
Not only extremist, but a dereliction of his duty as Commander in Chief. Not only extremist, but an impeachable offense. Not only extremist, but a reflection of his disregard for the rule of law. Not only extremist, but Exhibit 1 against him as one of worse presidents. Not only extremist, but a reflection of his abject failure as President of the United States.

Well, you get the idea!

And that was precisely my point. If Savage is sometimes over the top or reckless or intemperate, he is merely mirroring the recklessness of many of the "official" doings of the high-level politicians who are supposed to be representing our best interests and who should certainly know better than to be doing some of the things they're doing.

If we are losing the reasoned middle ground, we can thank the rank abusers of power in this nation. Savage only has a radio show; he's not leading armies of peasants with firebrands; he's careful not to advocate violence. Meanwhile, the people with velvet gloves in the House of Lords and the invisible seats of power are actively working against the will and interests of a majority of Americans and, in fact, undermining the nation.
 
longeyes said:
Trybal Rage:

Savage has 10-12 million daily listeners. How many does Ron Paul have?

You're kidding right? What does that have to do with anything?

By this standard, any popular entertainer qualifies to run for president.

How many did GWB or Clinton have to get their presidencies? Oh yeah.

I'm sure Savage is very entertaining to listen to, and thump your steering wheel with a 'yeah!' when he complains about the "Democrats":rolleyes: , but he is NOT a viable candidate for a school board, much less the Commander-in-Chief.

Maybe while we are at it, we can nominate Shawn Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. Maybe Joe Scarborough (at least he was a Rep. or a Senator once).

Savage is a joke.
 
There's a reason why 12 million people tune into Savage every weekday. That doesn't make him right but it does make him popular, and the last time I checked that's the same standard employed in what we like to call suffrage.

The reality is that a lot of future pols are coming to emerge from what you, Trybal Rage, like to call "entertainment," but you fail to see that talk radio and blogging and talk tv are not "just entertainment" but interactive media vehicles that satisfy a primal need for primal communication, something that contemporary political life appears to be dreadfully short on. There is more real "debate" in one day in talk radio than in all the Presidential charades put together.

As for credentials, are you saying that you need a law degree to be in politics? Don't tell me that the top rank of talk radio people don't have the smarts to be politicians. And effective ones. These are not foolish people. This is going to be a major new incubator for political talent that is just beginning to be tapped, and we should look to it as a possible salvation for the conservative movement.

I am not going to debate with you whether "Savage is a joke." You may not like what he says, but joke he is not.
 
I'm sure Savage is very entertaining to listen to, and thump your steering wheel with a 'yeah!' when he complains about the "Democrats" , but he is NOT a viable candidate for a school board, much less the Commander-in-Chief.

And our Commander-in-Chief is a battle-hardened military genius, right?

You're right: Savage would not do well on a school board. Neither would I. And, unfortunately, America is more and more being run, at all levels, like a school board meeting by people who were born for that role. And you wonder why we have the problems we have. I wouldn't be using American "lower ed" as my model for American viability if I were you.
 
IMHO, Savage is rude and offensive. And blatantly obvious when he takes people's words and twists them around into something that they neither said nor meant. It's an interesting parlor trick the first few times, but it gets rather old rather fast.

I'd probably vote for McCain before I'd vote for him.

I wish Rice was running. Then again, I think that her election (or Hillary's) would send a very bad message to the Arab world - they already think that we're weak, and that we're easy targets (and therefore to be targeted). Electing a woman, to them, would be a signal that they should step up their activities.

Any way we could talk Stormin' Norman into running?
 
Savage is a bit of a pompous blowhard.My wife has a PHD in Geophysics from Colombia and she isn't nearly as "bossy" and egotistical as that guy:rolleyes:.He is another past tense patriot without a DD214 in his resume'.That said he would add a certain "something" to the contest and possibly prompt the Republican candidates to at least pretend to adopt a more conservative stance.I seriously doubt that anything he says will effect any Pol's stance on the 2nd Amendment though.:banghead:
 
longeyes said:
There's a reason why 12 million people tune into Savage every weekday. That doesn't make him right but it does make him popular, and the last time I checked that's the same standard employed in what we like to call suffrage.

Yes, he's popular. That doesn't make him a good leader. And that seems a bit inflated from the article's 8 mil.

longeyes said:
The reality is that a lot of future pols are coming to emerge from what you, Trybal Rage, like to call "entertainment," but you fail to see that talk radio and blogging and talk tv are not "just entertainment" but interactive media vehicles that satisfy a primal need for primal communication, something that contemporary political life appears to be dreadfully short on. There is more real "debate" in one day in talk radio than in all the Presidential charades put together.

There's no debate, just one-sided rantings. And I would give his one-sided ranting more credit if he didn't resort to name calling. It's funny from a talk show host but as soon as you try to take him seriously it's childish and embarassing.


longeyes said:
As for credentials, are you saying that you need a law degree to be in politics? Don't tell me that the top rank of talk radio people don't have the smarts to be politicians. And effective ones. These are not foolish people. This is going to be a major new incubator for political talent that is just beginning to be tapped, and we should look to it as a possible salvation for the conservative movement.

No, you don't need a law degree, in fact we don't have enough 'regular' people in politics, that's part of this country's problem.
And no, they aren't foolish people - they are just like politicians, saying what they think people want to hear to boost ratings. But you are nuts if you think that talk shows are the 'incubator for political talent'. One guy spouting off his views and shouting down dissenters because he's got a volume control on their phone line does not prove leadership, it looks more like future dictatorship.

HE TALKS FOR A LIVING.

longeyes said:
I am not going to debate with you whether "Savage is a joke." You may not like what he says, but joke he is not.

I never said that I didn't like what he says, in fact I agree with him as far as the issues go. But he talks like a petulant child. So, yes, he's a joke. He has NO CHANCE. Maybe if he wants to go small first and work his way up like everyone else. Try mayor of some nowhere town first.
 
Good analysis Bob H.

After I heard Ron Paul was running is there reason for any other candidates?
Savage has good politics but what an egocentric, obnoxious blowhard.
 
He is also a very homophobic man.

He is not "homophobic." He's not "afraid" of homosexuals. He doesn't like them or their activities. There's a difference.

Last I heard, we still have the first amendment. He has a right to express an opinion about something he feels is perverse without being castigated.
 
Phobia in that sense isn't just "fear." It's also used to describe strong aversions.

In that sense...he's certainly a phobe, much as someone who doesn't necessarily fear guns, and may even own guns, but doesn't want "everyone to have one and thinks gun control is good" is a hoplophobe. There are people who think kinky sex positions, sex between races, and premarital sex are "perverse" as well. If you ask me, those people are pretty ridiculous. I'm struggling to see why I should think any more of people who loudly and consistently voice their aversion to gay sex. I don't want to see it, it doesn't appeal to me, but frankly it's not any of my business if a dude prefers the male to the female. If you don't like it...don't participate in it.

Frankly, if you're casting judgments about what consenting adults do in their private lives, in this day and age you do deserve to be criticized and castigated. It's none of his or anyone else's business what people do in their bedrooms, and certainly no business of the governments.
 
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