Most Reliable 45ACP autoloader?

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Rockstar,

I'd give no credence whatsoever to the Portland PD G21 debacle. They used G21s for ten years or so, then had two explode during the same range session.

Actually I believe that the 2 Kabooms were about 2 years apart. This would seem to do away with the myth that it was a bad batch of ammo.

White Labs, however, opined that bad ammo was the problem. Makes a lot more sense that it was the ammo, now, doesn't it?

Opined? Doesn't make any more sense that it was the ammo.

Also, if it was a bad batch of ammo, where are the recalls, law suits and the kabooms of other makes of firearms using this bad batch of ammo? With the instantaneous nature of the internet, don't you think we would all know about a bad batch of ammo, immediatly?

This is not a knock on Glocks, it is merely reporting what I read in the paper, and learned from talking with LEO's at the time, and applying a little common sense, some say that a little is all I have to apply, lol.

In a real life-or-death situation, a semi-auto doesn't have to be reliable for more than a few rounds, so must about any pistol that you've fired enough to become comfortable with will work for s.d. purposes.

Yep, that's what I want when my life depends on it, a gun that is reliable for a shot or two and then quits working. What if the shot or two of reliability were the last two I fired at the range? OOPS! What if the 5 or more shots that are unreliable are the first ones in the magazine? OOPS!

If, however, you're interested in the kind of reliability issues that might cause you to fail in a gun games session, then just observe what everybody else is using and what kind of problems they generally have.

Really, I believe that the tricked out, highly modified guns, used in many competitions are less reliable than most of us would want if our life depended on them.

In a weapon for self defense, I want a gun that I know will always work, with ammunition that I know will work in the gun, and I believe will have a good chance of stopping any threat likely to be encountered. I also want to be able to hit what I shoot at.

(yes, I realize that firearms are mechanical devices and as such are subject to failure. I know that nothing made by man is 100%, but I want a weapon as close to 100% as possible.)

For me, at this time -it could change, it has before, that weapon is my Ruger P90. I know it will work, first time, every time, and I can hit what I shoot at, just ask my grand daughter, :D

For others, the choice is something else, the main ingredients are that it be reliable and you can hit what you shoot at.

There is no one, "RIGHT" choice for everyone. There is no "WRONG" answer, unless you talk yourself into believing that you only need a gun that functions 25%, or less, of the time.

DM
 
i never had a problem with my glocks exploding and neither lots of other people as well. i think there's something wrong with the portland and ny guys.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

Now i'm torn between the Ruger P90 and the Sig P220 ST. They both have high reliability, but they have a big price difference.

Am I missing something? :D
 
"Actually I believe that the 2 Kabooms were about 2 years apart. This would seem to do away with the myth that it was a bad batch of ammo."

The accounts I read said that the KBs happened on the same day, ostensibly using the same Federal ammo. One thing's for sure. Nobody here knows the truth about what kind of ammo the Portland PD was using. Lots of bad info on the internet. Choose to believe as you wish, of course, but I think bad ammo is a more logical conclusion than bad Glocks, just based on my personal experience.

Portland PD refused to take Glock up on a free trip to Smyrna, GA, so that Glock's REAL EXPERTS could examine the pistols. What were they afraid of, that Glock would illegally seize their pistols?

Where are the lawsuits about the "defective" Glocks? As long as the ammo manufacturer pays for the destroyed pistols, would you expect there to be a lawsuit?
 
Velocity229,

I personally carry the P90, I have found it to be reliable, accurate and as you mentioned, affordable.

That being said.

Go to a range and rent one of each. Run a box of shells through each. Buy the one you shoot best.

Most of all, have fun trying the two.

Both are fine pistols. You are the only one who will know which is "right" for you.

Let us know what you decide, why and how it shoots.

DM
 
Now i'm torn between the Ruger P90 and the Sig P220 ST. They both have high reliability, but they have a big price difference.

I like Ruger handguns and own a few of them but I don't think the P90 comes close to the overall quality of the Sig 220.
 
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The Glock 21 has had some significant problems in .45 ACP. A few years ago a warning went out to police depts. in the USA regarding same.
 
I like Ruger handguns and own a few of them but I don't think the P90 comes close to the overall quality of the Sig 220.

I got the 220ST and a few Rugers. I agree. You just don't compare a Sig to a Ruger :D that's like comparing a fat chick to a supermodel. Sure they have the same equipment and can do the same thing, but it's just not the same :)
 
The man asked about reliability, nothing more. In that area, you CAN compare the two.

You want to talk about other things, fine, but that was not what was asked.
 
I'd have to cast a vote for my Ruger P-90. Can't same the same for a previously owned SA 1911.


Lex in NC

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Give the H&K USP45 fullsize a try.My absolute most accurate pistol.Reliability?Its a HK baby.Try one and you will see for yourself.
 
I've owned over a dozen Colt manufactured .45 automatic opistols that worked 100% from my first shot.

But I think you'll find that the vast majority of ALL .45 pistols are extremely reliable.

And don't forget that reliability was never one of the reasons why the US Military finally strayed away from the 1911A1.
 
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