chaim
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OK, I'd like to get a gun for pocket carry as a backup gun when I'm out of state and CCWing. I can't really afford what I really want in the near future (a Kahr PM9).
I may go with a NAA Guardian in .32ACP, though it would only be about $150 more to get the Kahr so most likely I'll go a little cheaper. If I bought the NAA I'd probably be kicking myself for not pushing to go the extra $150 since $150 isn't that much, even though the NAA is at the absolute top of my possible price range right now (thus the total of the Kahr is "that much" for me right now).
I'm mainly thinking about the Taurus PT22 or a Beretta 21 in .25ACP (the Beretta is about $60 more). I don't want a Taurus v. Beretta thread, that isn't what I'm talking about. The more expensive of these is around $200 less than the NAA and around $350 less than local Kahr prices so mentally it is easier to buy this than the NAA.
I'm requesting good info about the real negatives and advantages of the mouse gun calibers (mainly the .22lr and .25ACP since I know the .32ACP is more powerful than both).
As I understand it the .22lr is much more powerful than .25ACP. However, in a semi-auto it can be a less than reliable caliber sometimes. Also, rimfire ammo isn't as reliable (more hangfires and outright duds). Still, in my personal experience there are a couple .22lr loadings in which I can't remember any trouble with the ammo. As for autoloaders in .22lr tending to be less reliable, anything I buy will be well tested before I use it to defend myself.
The .25ACP is less powerful than .22lr (though at this level neither is particularly powerful so is the .25ACP weaker by enough to be worth considering, or put better, is the .22lr more powerful by enough to counter the potential ammo reliability issues), but generally it is considered much more reliable (both the ammo itself as a centerfire, and it tends to feed better in most autos).
Personally, I'm not sure the .25ACP is more reliable enough to trump the difference in power (the .22lr is so weak I wouldn't want anything weaker, even if it is just marginally weaker). So, I do lean to the .22lr, especially since I'd certainly test the gun and planned defensive ammo combo out before using it. Also, .22lr is much cheaper (.25ACP and .32ACP isn't much less than .40S&W) so I could shoot it a lot more (with such a weak caliber it is even more important to be very proficient with any gun one intends to use for defense). Still, I'm open to feedback.
I may go with a NAA Guardian in .32ACP, though it would only be about $150 more to get the Kahr so most likely I'll go a little cheaper. If I bought the NAA I'd probably be kicking myself for not pushing to go the extra $150 since $150 isn't that much, even though the NAA is at the absolute top of my possible price range right now (thus the total of the Kahr is "that much" for me right now).
I'm mainly thinking about the Taurus PT22 or a Beretta 21 in .25ACP (the Beretta is about $60 more). I don't want a Taurus v. Beretta thread, that isn't what I'm talking about. The more expensive of these is around $200 less than the NAA and around $350 less than local Kahr prices so mentally it is easier to buy this than the NAA.
I'm requesting good info about the real negatives and advantages of the mouse gun calibers (mainly the .22lr and .25ACP since I know the .32ACP is more powerful than both).
As I understand it the .22lr is much more powerful than .25ACP. However, in a semi-auto it can be a less than reliable caliber sometimes. Also, rimfire ammo isn't as reliable (more hangfires and outright duds). Still, in my personal experience there are a couple .22lr loadings in which I can't remember any trouble with the ammo. As for autoloaders in .22lr tending to be less reliable, anything I buy will be well tested before I use it to defend myself.
The .25ACP is less powerful than .22lr (though at this level neither is particularly powerful so is the .25ACP weaker by enough to be worth considering, or put better, is the .22lr more powerful by enough to counter the potential ammo reliability issues), but generally it is considered much more reliable (both the ammo itself as a centerfire, and it tends to feed better in most autos).
Personally, I'm not sure the .25ACP is more reliable enough to trump the difference in power (the .22lr is so weak I wouldn't want anything weaker, even if it is just marginally weaker). So, I do lean to the .22lr, especially since I'd certainly test the gun and planned defensive ammo combo out before using it. Also, .22lr is much cheaper (.25ACP and .32ACP isn't much less than .40S&W) so I could shoot it a lot more (with such a weak caliber it is even more important to be very proficient with any gun one intends to use for defense). Still, I'm open to feedback.