negligent discharge
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EddieNFL said:
Trigger being pulled with no intention of firing.
EddieNFL said:
You don't seem to be paying attention to the conversation. Another poster said that he felt there were no exceptions to the rules. I stated that there were some exceptions to the rules, and gave specific example. MY point is that dry firing a verified unloaded gun in a safe direction is an exception and not a violation in the same way that having a gun pointed at another person can be within the rules.
Example: All rifles/firearms are laid on a bench/the ground, facing downrange, unloaded, with chamber flags inserted/actions opens. Range is called cold. Nobody touches a firearm while shooters head downrange to deal with the targets. Guns are pointed at people, but it is not a rules violation. Because there are exceptions.
While completely true, having exceptions only confuses people, hence the absolute statement of "no exceptions." Of course there are exceptions no matter what we claim... I mean, how the heck do any of us clean our firearms?
It's like the rule about "never" driving on bald tires, yet nothing has better traction than a tire with all its rubber on the road - as long as it doesn't rain and the rubber's not worn through. That's just too much for people to handle, hence the "never" part.
It's like the rule about "never" driving on bald tires, yet nothing has better traction than a tire with all its rubber on the road - as long as it doesn't rain and the rubber's not worn through. That's just too much for people to handle, hence the "never" part.
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Quote= "Trigger being pulled with no intention of firing."
When I place my finger on the trigger and pull it while dry-firing, I am not breaking any rules in any way. I have FULL intention of firing the weapon (dry-firing.)
Quote= "Guns are pointed at people, but it is not a rules violation. Because there are exceptions."
You are a little misguided here.... In this situation no one has pointed the muzzle of a weapon at anyone. When the people make their way downrange and put themselves in line with the muzzles, no one is touching the firearms. Therefore, there is no violation in any way.
When I place my finger on the trigger and pull it while dry-firing, I am not breaking any rules in any way. I have FULL intention of firing the weapon (dry-firing.)
Quote= "Guns are pointed at people, but it is not a rules violation. Because there are exceptions."
You are a little misguided here.... In this situation no one has pointed the muzzle of a weapon at anyone. When the people make their way downrange and put themselves in line with the muzzles, no one is touching the firearms. Therefore, there is no violation in any way.
You have FULL intention of firing the weapon, yet you do not expect it to fire (actually fire)?
Pointing a gun in a direction that you know a person will soon occupy is allowed?
Quote= "Pointing a gun in a direction that you know a person will soon occupy is allowed?"
Actually, this is a loaded question....
We're not talking about manually pointing the muzzle downrange when other shooters are about to start heading down. That would be a violation of range rules (handling of weapons while range is Cold.)
We're talking about clearing your weapon and laying it down with muzzle pointed downrange after a cease-fire has been called.
Actually, this is a loaded question....
We're not talking about manually pointing the muzzle downrange when other shooters are about to start heading down. That would be a violation of range rules (handling of weapons while range is Cold.)
We're talking about clearing your weapon and laying it down with muzzle pointed downrange after a cease-fire has been called.
Faulty analogy; has nothing to do with dry firing. When a rifle is lying on a bench, YOU are not pointing it at anyone. If you want to be a to the letter literalist, the only way to not violate rule two is to never own a firearm. Think about spirit and intent.
igousigloo
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That is why chamber flags are inserted. If one or those are in every chamber then the range is cold.
Texan Scott
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LOLd at finger-indexing power tools and windex bottles... me too! My dad first started the 'finger off the trigger 'till you're ready to use it' thing with me WITH A SKIL SAW when I was 10.
Taraqian, don't beat yourself up. If you handle a gun enough you will fire it off by accident once or twice.
I got a new Taurus and was trying to clean it. I was certain it was unloaded. To remove the slide, you must pull the trigger. (Bad design.)
Well, I followed the rule that says "always point the weapon down range in a safe direction." That's how it was taught to me years ago.
A little bit of spackle fixed the hole in my screen door, but my hearing was poor for about 4 days.
Except for my wife, everyone in my family who was directly above me argued there was no gun shot. The neighbors heard and knew it was a gunshot, but shrugged it off. It was a 9mm +P.
My wife asked, "Where's your father?" She came down, saw what had happened, and shrugged it off. I do love my wife!
But it can happen. I didn't sleep for three days worrying about it, but think of all the accidents you've had with every other tool you've used. Follow the rules of safety, and the accidents will be relatively harmless.
Glad you are safe.
I got a new Taurus and was trying to clean it. I was certain it was unloaded. To remove the slide, you must pull the trigger. (Bad design.)
Well, I followed the rule that says "always point the weapon down range in a safe direction." That's how it was taught to me years ago.
A little bit of spackle fixed the hole in my screen door, but my hearing was poor for about 4 days.
Except for my wife, everyone in my family who was directly above me argued there was no gun shot. The neighbors heard and knew it was a gunshot, but shrugged it off. It was a 9mm +P.
My wife asked, "Where's your father?" She came down, saw what had happened, and shrugged it off. I do love my wife!
But it can happen. I didn't sleep for three days worrying about it, but think of all the accidents you've had with every other tool you've used. Follow the rules of safety, and the accidents will be relatively harmless.
Glad you are safe.
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