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Neighbors beating on my door....

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Rembrandt, Oct 9, 2004.

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  1. Rembrandt

    Rembrandt Member

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    ....anarchy in the streets, people being raped and plundered, mass looting, buildings on fire....your liberal neighbor who has anti-gun political signs in his yard is beating on your door asking to borrow a gun....

    ...do you make him buy an NRA membership before loaning the gun?
    ...tell him to take a hike, go ask his antigun politican for help?
    ...have him fill out a form, and wait 5 days?
    ...team up, letting him be your spotter against bad guys?
     
  2. cslinger

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    If you are a half decent person you don't let somebody die in the streets just because they have a different view then you. You do the right thing.

    Chris
     
  3. Harry Tuttle

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    Then someone bad takes the gun from his corpse and continues down the street towards your house...

    a gun is not a get out of trouble free card

    They require training and using one on a looter has long term repercussions

    especially when he shoots above the crowds head like on TV, and kills the neighbors kid hiding in the tree house
     
  4. Zundfolge

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    I tell him no, but if he has a family they (and he) are welcome to hide in our basement as long as they bring enough supplies for themselves and agree to follow orders.
     
  5. Nanook

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    I know it's a hypothetical situation, but I'd probably have a hard time helping someone of that description. Just the thought of the things some Liberals have tried to do over the years makes my blood boil.

    I'm afraid I'd gently close the door after telling him to go away. And then watch my back. Especially after things settled down...

    Just my two cents.
     
  6. boofus

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    No way. As owner of those guns you're responsible for those badboys and if he borrows one and goes out and does something stupid (like accidentally shooting the national guard or police trying to restore order) you catch the flak. Not to mention he will have zero training and familiarity with your weapons which will increase the chances of an accident.

    If they aren't responsible enough to have their own guns, they aren't responsible enough to borrow mine.
     
  7. RevDisk

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    I'd offer for him and his family to join my residence, but I wouldn't hand over a gun for him to take with him. If they came over, I'd hand him a shotgun with a laser attachment. "Put the dot in the center, pull the trigger." Even an anti can't miss at short ranges.

    I might ask the guy beforehand "After this is over, will you be voting pro-gun?"
     
  8. Valkman

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    Maybe the last choice, but I'm not giving a gun to anyone I haven't shot with already, and that means my wife, son-in-law and friend Rick so far. The neighbor is a cop though, guess I could give him one. :)
     
  9. magsnubby

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    I would look him stright in the eye and say "Screw you buddy" then slam the door in his face.

    Why should i give a rat crap about someone who didn't care enough about his family to take steps to ensure they're safety?

    Cold hearted? Maybe so. But i would need every weapon i had to take care of me and my own.
     
  10. RavenVT100

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    I'd hand him the cordless and provide both Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein's office phone numbers. They both carry guns, and since they care so much about the common good, they'll be sure to help.
     
  11. EvilOmega

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    For the strong to survive the week must die. Those who choose not to fight are just wasting recourses for those who do. It's cold, but it's right. If you give him a weapon you disarm yourself to a degree and a coward with a weapon is more useless than a coward without. If you let him into you home you give yourself a liability. Just remember that your life and the lives of your friends and family are more important than his, beaus you tack the effort to defend yourself. He made his bed, don't make the mistake off lying in it with him out of pity. Pitty those who would fight and can't, dispise those who can fight and don't.

    And just so this post isn't to dark, you could always ask how cute his daughter is.
    :neener:
     
  12. jefnvk

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    'A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency for me' - someone I know
     
  13. Standing Wolf

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    Nope. People who seek to turn me into a serf can learn to live with the consequences of their tyrannical attitudes. I'll stand with the people who've fought for freedom.
     
  14. 444

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    I would unleash the hound.


    And not lose a moment's sleep over it. No matter what happened to him.
     
  15. geekWithA.45

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    After I recovered from my laughing fit, I'd do the decent thing: Hide his family in the basement, and teach him how to carry ammo and load mags for me.
     
  16. patent

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    This is the only one that's even close. No way I give a valuable gun to some idiot who doesn't know how to use it. He'll just make a bad situation worse, and I have to many neighbors who do know how to use guns and are reasonably pro-gun. I'd much rather arm them if needed.

    If the guy has some skill that's valuable in the circumstances, and is trustworthy, I'll team up. If the only thing I know about him is that he has anti gun signs all over, and he is now panicking at my doorstop, then back out the door he goes. My first duty is to my family, and I'd very much expect a fellow like that only ads to the risk they face, rather then helping me protect them.

    patent
     
  17. roscoe

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    Shoot him and take his women.
     
  18. BHPshooter

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    That's a tough one... the irony of someone who needs something from you that he's supported banning and confiscating is funny and nauseating at the same time.

    I remember reading something Chuck Heston said about (I believe) the L.A. riots, where an associate of some type asked to borrow a gun to protect his family -- don't remember what kind of rifle anymore. Anyway, he said, "If you need a gun, then you need to go to the store, fill out the papers, and abide by the ten-day waiting period that you helped make into law."

    I honestly can't say what I would do... but if he wanted to take one of my guns with him, the answer is, "No way." I'd rather have schoolchildren running around with gasoline in one hand and a burning torch in the other than let somebody loose with a gun that they don't have a clue how to use safely.

    Wes
     
  19. CannibalCrowley

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    I'd inform him that I'd be more than happy to teach him to shoot and pick out a weapon; but only after order has been restored. Until then he can suffer the consequences. If he dies it's because he spent years digging his own grave.
     
  20. KRAUTGUNNER

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    I'd act just like RevDisk!

    After the riots are dealt with, I'd tell him to become an NRA Lifer or else I'll shoot that SOB myself!
     
  21. one45auto

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    Ideally I'd like to think that I'd take the high road, I really would, but in all reality I'd be more likely to tell him to go have intercourse with himself before closing the door. In my view it is morally contemptible to arm an individual who'd spent years supporting efforts to disarm you. As I'd see it, since he had taken such care to make his bed it's only fair that I give him the opportunity to lie in it.

    Besides, in all likelyhood he'd be right back to his old habits the moment things calmed down ~ perhaps even more so, since he would have been thoroughly frightened by the threat of the bad guys' guns. :rolleyes:
     
  22. Preacherman

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    No way. You are legally and morally responsible for what is done with your guns (I'm not talking about theft, of course, but while they're under your control). If you voluntarily give one or more of your guns to someone untrained in their use, with no idea of what constitutes a legally justifiable use of deadly force, you've just put yourself in legal jeopardy. I'd let him bring his family over (with enough food, clothing, etc. to support themselves, and hopefully some extra for my family to use, or for barter), and he and his could load and spot for me, but NO WAY is he getting one of my guns! :fire:
     
  23. schromf

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    Well he is a nieghbor so I guess it would depend on if he PO'd me in the past and I hated his guts or I liked him ( or members of the family ).

    If he was in the first catagory I would add a sign to his collection in the front yard, saying something like: the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is here in an unarmed house.

    If he fell into the second catagory, I would provide help, and shelter. I won't being arming a idiot though, he is qualified to keep the magazines full and make sure I don't run out of ammo. Anything more is a waste of ammo in my view.

    The odds are he would fall in the 2nd category, I get along with all my nieghbors, oh well there goes my sign making project.

    Fortunately I live in a very rural setting and the odds of it happening in my nieghborhood take the already very remote possibilty even slimer. Course two of my nieghbors are Highway Patrol and I don't think either of them is going to need any help, that only leaves two nieghbors in a country mile, and I know the Marine Corps gunny sergent can handle his own. Come to think of it our nieghborhood is not a good place to have anarchy in our counrty roads, and my guess is I couldn't find a anti gun nut for a least a mile or two, and my guess 90% of my nieghbors are already prepared.

    I guess you folks in the cities and suburbs have different problems, but in the event it ever happens I would suggest armed nieghborhood watch forces. You would be much stronger with numbers and organisation on your side.
     
  24. BluesBear

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    The neighbor and his family would be more than welcome to bring all the food and supplied they can carry and take refuge in my home.
    But they will do exactly as I say no exceptions.

    After all I will probably need someone to help keep watch.
    and cook,
    and assist the wounded,
    and load magazines,
    Perhaps if any one of them seem to be "qualified to play putt-puttâ„¢" they can shut-up sit-still and guard the back door with the Coach Gun.


    Let's face it, if the man (or woman) wasn't already prepared to protect his/her family, giving them a gun won't really change anything.
    THere really is safety in numbers and having them double up with me and mine increases the odds of survival of us all.

    However if they put ANY of MY family in jeopardy... their butts will be put in the street to fend for themselves.
     
  25. cracked butt

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    I have enough rifles and ammo to outfit everyone on my street, but I would only lend stuff out to people who are current gun owners who, because of circumstances, find themselves low on ammo.

    Would you lend your truck to a neighbor who doesn't like automobiles, has never owned one, but suddenly has a need for one to move some furniture?:scrutiny:

    That would be the only option.

    I do have some neighbors who are good friends of our family that don't own guns that would be more than welcome to stay at my place. Most of my neighbors at least own a hunting rifle, a shotgun, or both. I think that in my town, or at least in my neighborhood, the people who don't own firearms will benifit indirectly from the vast majority that do.
     
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