OrangePwrx9
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I'm guessing your use the of the abbreviation "SA" is for "semi-auto" rather than "single action".
Right!
Context always has value.
I'm guessing your use the of the abbreviation "SA" is for "semi-auto" rather than "single action".
To a point. There are a couple of things to consider.Whatever limp wristing is, its still the fault of the shooter, and not the fault of the gun.
I think it's some small, involuntary reaction to the discharge in such cases.
I have a Canadian friend that's very strong on 2A rights. She went through courses (don't know what passes for firearms training in Canadia) and can identify and clear jams lightning fast...but she can't run a SA through a magazine without 3 or 4 jams. At a range that rents guns we tried several SAs. I had no trouble with any of them; she had jamming issues with all of them. In spite of all the jams, her accuracy was fairly good.
She's also big and strong, so it's not a matter of being small and weak..
She's a prime candidate for a revolver, but had no interest in them when we last shot together.
Bob
I tried many times to jam a Beretta M9 (92) by limp wristing it as a teaching point when I ran ranges for those. I never could get it to jam that way and I tried it often with a lot of ammo. Not saying it can't be done, but I never got it to do so.
Good observation and you hit on the reason for it. I mentioned this in my first post on this thread:The M9 is the platform I've seen fail most in limp-wristing. Smaller shooters.
but yet counter intuitive to how I am used to shooting
.... When I watch youtube videos of people shooting semi autos, they usually have both arms fully outstretched and locked. I guess this type of "locked out" stance is necessary to avoid limp wrist malfunctions on lighter polymer-framed guns? ...
A Tea Cup grip does the same lack of resistance as well. Why there is no argument to use it.Good observation and you hit on the reason for it. I mentioned this in my first post on this thread:
"Having a gun that fits the shooter so they can comfortably get high on the grip and behind it so they don't have to take the recoil on their thumb instead of into the web of their hand will help."
The first time I watched a smallish person shoot an M9 (92FS) they complained about the recoil. I couldn't understand it because that gun is very light-recoiling. What was going on was that she couldn't get a proper grip on the gun because the grip circumference was so large. So she was having to cheat her strong hand around a bit on the grip so she could get a finger on the trigger. That left the gun recoiling in to the first joint of her thumb where it meets the hand instead of into the web of the hand. Even the mild recoil of the gun against her thumb was causing pain.
In addition, if you look at how to induce grip related malfunctions, that's a good way to start. If the grip isn't seated into the web of the hand, it's going to be harder to provide the resistance that the frame needs in order for the gun to function properly.