Revealed My Secrets to Family About .. Guns..

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Sorry, this post is real personal and I have been feeling really bad and worried today and I going to come out in the open and reveal some things about me and my situation in life. I am not one of those guys who feels he has something to prove or has to play off being somebody I am not. Hopefully, I can find some people who can give me their advice and lend a shoulder to lean on as I tell them my situation.

Well, I just recently got into guns during the Obama election, for fear it may have been my final opportunity to own many guns. I bought some rifles and handguns. I have been pro-2A for many years and supporting the cause, but never got involved in shooting myself. I come from a background, where my ancestors were deprived of guns and it cost many of their lives in EUrope, for the last 1000 years. Especially in the last 70 years, my ancestors suffered greatly from lack of guns and had their gun rights taken from them, so they could easily be exterminated. I am grateful to be in USA where I have freedoms my ancestors never had, which they never could dream.

Well, to the point.. I lived a very bad life for the first 20 years of my life. I was not a good person and I had a real problem with my temper. I never handled things the right way. I was stupid kid and I toyed around with things I should have not. I had plenty of whoopings, but I was so bad, it never helped. You can say, I was not a good son or brother; I was not good to my family.

Later in my life I changed, found God and took up a career and have been helping my family. I made amends and try to heal up the open wounds. However ,the past with my anger and temper I regret. I know guns and tempers dont mix. My parents told me never to own a gun, since they had memories of my past life. They always have been a bit fearful of guns, due to buying into some of the anti-gun propaganda, especially my mother. She is a liberal and my father is a conservative. Now I can say, I have improved my life greatly and have successful career now and live to as high of a moral standard as I can. However ,time to time my temper I dont like.

I am 31 years old, by the way.. But I have lot of love for my family. For the longest time I refused to own a gun, becaues I knew my parents would not like it. I do not live with them and I am not dependant on them. My parents are actually dependant on me, partially, since I am a very important asset to family business. I am a software developer and they are in need of my help. I have financial leverage on my side now, but still have that honor and love which son has for parents.

I know that I must overcome my weaknesses and I cannot make myself a slave to my emotions. Also, I must respect the power and danger of firearms and know that I must be a more noble and of a higher virtue for owning them.

Well, after months of lying, trying to cover my tracks, making up stories where I was during the day, when I was called at the range, I finally did what my heart felt I needed to do. I called up my father and told him I was not out in the woods hiking, instead, today I was at the gun range going for orientation and to do some shooting. My heart was fearful and I was afraid he may condemn me for partaking in a hobby he told me in the past I should not do.

His reaction was very surprising. He did not condemn me, but he said he was happy I am partaking in social activity and that I am learning to shoot with ohters. He said he always dreamed of shooting guns and thought it be real exciting. He told me when he comes up to visit me, he wanted to come and shoot with me. When he said this, it nearly brought tears to my eyes. I also remember the past and how I hurt him and know that I rather die, than make him upset again.

I want to prove to my father I can be noble and I want all my bad traits from the past crushed. I hate that temper and want it gone for good. I would love my father to be a firearm enthusiast like I am becoming and for him to have a hobby too. He spends most of day pressured with his job, pleasing my mother and has little outdoor time or social life. He needs some enjoyment time and I feel it would be a wonderful hobby for him. I want to make a good impression on him with guns. Sometimes I Feel because of my past, I should not be the person. But, what can I do to build his enthusiasm for shooting? He is kind of anti-social, I doubt he would just go to range without someone like me to show him.

When I told him I own ARs and pistols, he seemed a bit shocked. He probably thought at first I just had a .22. Maybe i should have just stayed silent, but I hate lying to my father. Oh well, I also fear he may say these are bad guns, maybe I should not own them. Of course I am speculating still. Perhaps he will respect them for what they are. He is conservative politically and a war veteran. He respects 2A rights. I don't want to intimidate him though thinking I turned into some crazy gun freak, owning all these "assault" weapons. I wish now I would have saved some money for some "good guns", like some antique or wood hunting rifles.. But I am too broke to get one.


Sorry for sobbing and being emotional... My love affair with guns and freedom and my family is a tough issue. I thought a place like High Road would be good place to speak about this issue. Although, I am sure a spiritual advisor will also be needed. I am feeling bit sad, I feel a lot of guilt, I would like being a gun owner to result in me being a more responsible and repsecful person. The last thing I want to do is to sell my guns and be another helpless person.

Thanks for anyone who is listening.. God bless
 
First of all, the knowledge and the acknowledgement of your faults is a sign of maturity. Address them and deal with them, but do not let your fear of your shortcomings hamper you. Know well that you are the master of your circumstances.

Second, I would not worry about your parents. A parent's love for their children is not defined by boundaries and not determined by circumstance. A father's love for his son is so wonderful and so intense that it cannot be easily defined. Whatever you do, know that your father loves you now, and always will!

Finally, do NOT get rid of your guns. Keep them. Your family will (from what it sounds like) will grow to accept the fact that you have them and will continue to accept you.

Recognize that even though you love your parents--and they love you, equally--you must as an adult make your own decisions, and bear the fruits or consequences of those decisions.

One last thing--get your father to the range as soon as possible! Take along some light to medium calibers. It will be an experience you will not forget.
 
hey, that sounded like a... "coming out" ;)

I'm glad you did. Your family desserves to know the truth. They might be worrried, but it's up to you to show them that you are now a responsabile person, and gun owner.

About your past temper. keep in mind that now you are part of our gun owners community. You must behave accordingly. Be responsable, and everything will be fine.
 
...well, mate...

seems like you´re on the right track.

Don´t mess with drugs or alcohol if that
makes it more likely for your badside to take over.

And make sure you develop a strict behavior for not even
going to the range on a "bad day".

Seperate that from your shooting-hobby = all good.

Maybe black hi-cap rifles are not the best way to start
convincing your folks that it is a good hobby for you.....
But not lying to your Dad seems by far the better decision.

All the best!
 
I don't see a problem at all. Maybe don't show all that you have when (dad) shows up and just have a good day at the range. I am one that does not understand the black gun thang and i have been a hunter and shooter for 47 years of my 53 years. But thats just me. If you ever do find that your temper is starting to get the best of you then that would be the time to stop sell the guns. I have carried for 26 years and had fair share of problems when younger too and find that it has hepled to take a CCW and a refresher course or a advanced shooting course to help to keep you sharp and to be sure you are paying attention to the laws and your firearms as time goes by. The can's and can nots of carry'n should make you think twice about lossing control of a situation. Now relax a bit ,ain't a big deal unless you make it so. You like most of us will find that family does not see eye to eye most of the time if even half the time. I work just as hard for someone i don't like as i would for family, i do a job for me not them, so do your job just like you would for anyone and enjoy what you have with family. Its just time in your life to be your own man. Now stop sob'n and whine'n and have a great day.
 
I grew up shooting, hunting etc.
As an adult I didn't own a gun or a motorcycle until after 30. For the same reasons too...
I wanted to grow up first. Maturity, wisdom, the ability NOT to fight when a situation might call for it. Sometimes comes with age.
Glad you're getting there.

I'll add something that I believe we should all feel obligated to do.
Take a first aid class. Learn CPR. Make sure that you're range bag, hunting gear, shooting gear, bug out bag etc pays as much attention to the possibility of patching holes as placing them.
 
Just one thought. Remember family is one if the most important things in life. Stay close as life on this old earth is short.
 
I am hiding guns from my fiancee and her family.

They think only crazy homicidal maniacs own ar-15s and those type of guns. So they don't want me to have one. I now have 2 of them. The fiancee has seen the one but doesn't know anything about guns so she don't know what it is.

They know I bought a gun when I got the second one but they don't know what.

I feel the need to tell her but I never do. she wants to learn to shoot sometime so maybe after she shoots one, I will ask her if she likes it. then tell her.
 
(Later in my life I changed, found God)

This is the best thing you mentioned!

I'm sure that your parents are aware of a change in you.

As they see God working in and through you they will be less likely to question your motives when it comes to your recreation time.

Do not fret over the past. Satan likes to try and convice us we are not good people to try and discourage us from doing God's will.

Enjoy your new hobby but don't let it become the total focus of your life. Anything that we place above God becomes idol worship.

Christians have a joy that the non christain can't comprehend.

J Jesus
O Others
Y Yourself

Keep these priorities in the proper order and you will have true Joy!
:)

God Bless!
 
I think you're beating yourself up too much. You're a successful adult with a good job and a family, obviously not a felon (you did get your guns legally, right?), and you didn't buy your guns with evil intent. These days, that puts you ahead of a lot of people.

You're still growing up, though, even at your age, and you're in the process of finding your own answers to life's questions. Stay with that, and seek every way you can to learn to channel your temper. Anger cannot be successfully suppressed; you have to acknowledge and control it. I'd suggest this: when you feel your temper starting up, stop and ask yourself why you're angry. You may be able to train yourself not to get upset over insignificant events.

As to telling your parents about what guns you bought and why, just tell them what you've told us, that you wanted to have them before a possible ban.

This is your right; don't feel bad about it, enjoy it.
 
You have made your own choices. Good ones too from where I am.

My family could care less about firearms on one part because of the children.

All of the necessary family understands and support that we are a armed house so that pretty much settles that issue.

Because there are children involved, some parts of the family dont "Do" guns. Maybe in a few more years when they become of age.

Esphesians 4 and 5 pretty much takes care of that little bit.

There is a little bit of privacy in most of us as it is when it comes to parents. We let them know that things are going well and leave it at that. I think our own parents confide in us pretty well compared to years ago when time of day was impossible to get out of them.

Funny thing about tempers. You can completely lose it over something minor in the house. But not a thought about the guns at all. The problem gets taken care of proper until next time. Had a tire quit on me the other day, hammered a spare onto it knowing it's against doctor's orders. But it will be fixed this week.

Next time I just shoot hole in tire yes? 30 was a long time ago for me and things only get better from here. And yes Mr. O was the final tipping point for both of us. Otherwise we wont have gotten into this whole Gun business if we elected a proper president who fights.

Some of my parents are VERY angry at how bad our Government has gotten when THEY remember the Depression. Fortunately the stories we have heard enabled us to stay 4 steps ahead of our banks almost debt free. Just a little more left to go. The Guns? All of it cold. hard. US CASH.

Cheers.
 
you were born a son, and all ways will be a son.

only you can decide when you became a man, your dad knows this as he has made this decision himself.:cool:

it has nothing to do with leverage. :eek:

he suprised you because he already knew about your life changes from your actions, work ethics, simple conversations. he knew you were becoming a man before you did. dads are smarter than given credit for.:neener:

i guantee he is very proud, know it or not your feelings of conflict are the morals he taught you and he knows they are now directing your life.:D

i hate it when that happens. all those unfair rules were really lessons of life, $(*&^))$^@#* it any way.:evil:

moms are a little longer to come around cause you ARE her baby boy, forever.
instinct tells her not to let you hurt your self.:banghead:

she earned this right so let her have it. when she is 90 if you realy need help , let her go and it will still be just like momma bear and god help whatever is threating you.;)

dad will be very happy to enjoy your hobby with you. i would just temper the amount of guns shared at first.
 
This may be a bit long - bear with me.

I had a temper as a kid - still have one now in my 50's. Yet I've ALWAYS had firearms - because I grew up with a deep-grained training that when you pull one, it's going to change MY life forever. In high school, I took a whippin' that'd make a sadist cringe - but I brought it on myself. Afterwards, I jumped in my truck (parked at school) and drove home - it NEVER occured to me to use the gun sitting behind the seat. I still struggle with my temper on an on-going basis, but that's just part of life. The flip side is that you can learn to direct the anger into a non-destructive way to allow you to better study your emotions, and be prepared for an "Ah, ****" situation.

I've pulled - and used - a gun in the past, and in each instance it was not only "justifiable", it was the only option open to me. It saved me from a situation NOT of my making, and in at least 3 of those instances, it kept me from being killed/seriously injured.

I went through a divorce 11 years ago that involved someone I considered to be my best friend. At the time I had a CHL that was coming due for renewal, and chose NOT to renew it because I didn't trust my emotions at the time. I later renewed it, and still carry daily - the emotions are long since handled.

The key thing is to be able to CONTROL YOURSELF - and from the sounds of things, you can. As you've gotten older, you've learned how to channel your anger - and to recognize your limits. If things are getting out of control for you, remove the firing mechanisms and give them to a trusted friend (or place in a bank Safety Deposit Box) until you are comfortable that you're back under control.

When your Dad gets there, spend some time reviewing range safety before heading out there. He'll likely have a ton of questions, some of which may well be intended to "feel you out" about your past anger issues. But I'm thinking that he's already seen that you've gained self-control as you matured, and is likely quite proud of you and what you've accomplished.

I worried that I let my Dad down in my younger years - now, as a father myself I realize that while I might be less than pleased with the actions of a child, I can realize that he/she IS a child, and deal with it as a passing issue, not something to be remember forever.

When you spend your time together, take the time to say something along the lines of "Dad, I really appreciate your love and support over the years, even when I did things that weren't in line with your wishes. I hope that over the coming years, my actions will better reflect the values and ideals you tried so hard to teach me." Don't "apologize" - it's like cutting open scar tissue - you can, but all it's going to do is bleed and possibly become infected. Your own actions have told them that you have come to see the error of your old ways.

More than anything else, hug, talk and tell them how much you love them. My own father passed away 5 years ago, and my Mom just last month. It still hurts, but at least we had time before they went to have had our final discussion, and for me to tell them how dearly I loved them. They're still with me, but I can never hug them again.......:( Other friends, however, weren't so lucky - their parents passed while they were having problems in their relationship and they never got to say "I love you" before they were gone. That's why I ALWAYS end any conversation with my wife, kids or parents (when they were still alive) with "I love you!" - whether in person, by phone, or email.

Just some things to think about, my friend!
 
Thanks for you post 4Freedom.

When I purchased my first M4, I had my dad do some price checking in his area. He was a little dismayed at the idea of me buying a rifle like that. He is a gun nut and conservative guy too, but for some reason, me buying a combat rifle hit him wrong. I could sense a tone in his voice when he asked me why I would want a gun like that. I was straight forward with him, and I believe he learned a few things about the 'black rifle' use. Now he's a huge fan.
 
It sounds like you've made many changes for the better in your life. And it sounds like they are changes that you should be proud of. Good job!

When I told him I own ARs and pistols, he seemed a bit shocked. He probably thought at first I just had a .22. Maybe i should have just stayed silent, but I hate lying to my father. Oh well, I also fear he may say these are bad guns, maybe I should not own them.

Let me make some recommendations concerning this. First, before going to the range with your dad, spend some time going over the safety rules for the range as well as the 4 rules of gun safety. Make sure he understands everything. If you've taken any gun safety classes, talk about what you've learned. This will show him that you take safety, gun handling and rules seriously.

Second, pick out a few guns that you want to take to the range when you take your dad. Before you go, sit down with him and show him how to operate each of them and give him some idea of what to expect when firing it. Recoil, trigger pull, etc... Don't overwhelm him before going the range by showing him everything you own. You can do that when you come back.

Third, focus on the accuracy aspects of the sport. Show him what kind of group an AR15 can produce at 100 yards. I would shy away from showing how many rounds you can put in a human sillouette target in 10 seconds. Demonstrate the skills that you have fine tuned since you have started shooting.

Fourth, don't stay too long at the range. Quit while he's having fun and leave him wanting more.

Moms are usually harder to convince on this type of thing. But moms usually respect dads opinions (if they don't they usually don't stay married). If your dad is convinced you are a responsible gun owner, that will go a long way towards bringing your mom around. If you eventually get your mom to the range, start her out with a .22. Buy, rent or burrow one if need be.

Keep working on that temper. Just about all of us have to. Praying about it helps more than you think. As you get older, you start to realize that a lot of the things that you used to get worked up about aren't that big of a deal and getting mad about it changes nothing but your blood pressure. Thanks for sharing and good luck.
 
I live in a similar situation(without the "bad early years"). I'm very afraid of my parents finding out.
 
Don't be. Use it as a "learning moment" for 'em. If they're anti-gun, they'll have to face the fact that someone they raised with good values is a gun owner - and maybe it's time for them to revisit their own thinking.
 
Sounds like you are earnestly trying to improve your life - that's outstanding.
So, my advice to you is to just do it and quit talking about it.
 
It has already done so.

I would like being a gun owner to result in me being a more responsible and repsectful person.

It's difficult to understand where you and many others are coming from. I grew up in a house where hunting and shooting were cherished activities. I can see now just how fortunate I've been.

What you may or may not have done earlier in your life really has no bearing on your right to own and safely enjoy firearms now. I believe anyone here would be proud to call you a friend.
 
I want to thank everyone for their contribution to this thread. I have read each and every post here and I want to say that I very much appreciate the kindness, as well as the advice people have given me. It has been heartwarming and also inspirational to me. Also, the stories that some have shared here are very touching and some even made me sob a bit; sorry, I am kind of emotional at times, when people talk about their family issues. I really think this is an exciting time of my life and I have faith in God that things are going to be wonderful. We all have to keep a positive attitude and not let all the foolish and vain cares of the world get in our way of happiness, as well as not let them hinder us in achieving our goals.

THanks everyone here. I really love the site and the people here. Its nice to know people here support each other. I hope both me and my father can become great shooters one day. :D

Thanks and God Bless All of You.
 
Good job on straightening out your life (without a probation/parole officer:D).


My two boys are still little, but if they ever went through what you described, the guns would be a very distant issue (if at all) when compared to how enormously grateful I would be for them turning their lives around.
 
This won't be as verbose as some of the other replies....but you've done yourself a world of good. You've accepted God into your life, you've repented of your past, and you're trying to make things right--with yourself, and your folks. But, in doing so, you've come to grips with a lot of things, and decided to exercise rights which may save your life and the life of those you love someday (though hopefully you never get that chance ;) ).

You're beating yourself up too much over past mistakes. Time to start responsibly enjoying your shooting hobby. And who knows, you may seriously reconnect with your folks through shooting. I also got into it before my dad, though my granddad shot (it skipped a generation). I started shooting, then my dad got interested about what I was doing with all of my time and money, so I gladly explained things to him in a helpful, non-condescending fashion. It was slow goings at first, but now shooting is one of the most enjoyable and dear to my heart "father-son" activities I can think of doing, even at our respective ages.

Good job on all of the stuff you've managed to do in/with your life. Keep on believing, keep on gunning....and who knows, you may actually enjoy yourself, and bring your dad "into the fold" to the degree that you both enjoy your newly-found hobby.

And while a little late, and more symbolic than anything-after everything you just typed out, a thought that comes to mind is "welcome to the high road" of life.

Enjoy your stay.
 
Am I the only one who notices some disturbing things is some posts here??

To, the OP...embrace your family, they are what life is all about! Love God, trust Him and hug your family!
 
Sorry, I could not even wade through the posts. In fact I could not even make it through the second paragraph of the OP. It sounds as though you are "coming out", or ashamed, or from a Jewish family, admitting to Christianity. There is nothing wrong with guns, there is nothing wrong with owning guns, there is something wrong with those that would judge you based on either. I am a very independent person, and could not care one way or the other what ANYONE thinks about me having guns. If they have a problem with your guns, then tell them you have a problem with their mouth. 2a vs 1a.
 
Good God, what is it with people that think ARs, AKs, Sig 556s, G36s, etc. are "evil"? If it wasn't for the militia we wouldn't have won our independence. As long as we have a sizeable militia, it would be very difficult for our government to turn tyranical or for a foreign country to invade us successfully. To be a militia, you need to carry the standard issue infantry weapon of the time. Today that means a AR, AK, Sig 556, G36, etc. I'm not sure how it was that militias and infantry guns came to be considered evil, but people need to read up on the history of the Revolutionary War. Most of the rights in the first ten amendments were written for a reason, mostly because King George was violating them.

Knowledge of history: it does matter.
 
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