Rifle in trunk

[Black Knight]

What type of rifle are you considering? Are you looking at an AR-15 or one of its variants? If so check out some police supply dealers for an in trunk gunrack. They lock and can be opened with a handcuff key or by an electric switch. There is one for a shotgun that bolts up under the rear deck in the trunk

 

[kalash]

What type of rifle are you considering? Are you looking at an AR-15 or one of its variants? If so check out some police supply dealers for an in trunk gunrack. They lock and can be opened with a handcuff key or by an electric switch. There is one for a shotgun that bolts up under the rear deck in the trunk

I really did not want to modify the car. The main rifle that am considering using is a beater AK that I own.

 

[yyz]

if it was me. i would look into a pelican type case that fits between the wheel wells. then cutting the bottom out to thread the chain though the inside of the case and ak. not sure were you live but here on the wi mi border you have a requirement to have the rifle cased in the trunk. also even though you think the trunk is clean you will be surprised what will get into a rifle just flopping around in the trunk under a lint maker like a blanket. as some one who traveled around the lower 48 for work and carried a rifle around just in case. leos tend to respond better to a bolt action then an AK. i used to carry around a m38 mosin nagant with 80 rounds of ammo. if i did lose it i had less then 70 bucks in the whole batch. i was more worried about confiscation then theft. i had no illusions of being rambo. if tshtf i am going to be a rabbit. with the m38 when the ammo ran out i had a good club. thought about an m44 but the whole attached bayonet bit was a problem in some places. the law means nothing till you are in front of a judge. with a leo on the street the law is what the leo thinks the law is. while you will win in court it may take a bit to get your day. having been cuffed and stuffed waiting for a decision from the DA's office that i was in fact not breaking the law makes me think a little bit more about being with in the letter of the law when out of my home area. for the record most leo were never a problem but twice i was unlucky and got officer wrong.

 

[Gordon_Freeman]

I would be concerned about getting rust on the rifle.

 

[kalash]

I was under the impression if they arrested you with out a real reasion you could sue the PD. If I end up in cuffs I will just lawyer up and cause as much damage as I can to the local economy.

I think some of you are worring way to much. By the posts I am getting you would think we were in england. Last time I checked it is legal to own a rifle, it is legal to carry a rifle, and it is legal to transport a rifle in my trunk. Legally, there is no difference between carrying my semi-automatic AK-47 clone in my trunk, and someone carrying a bolt action or a shotgun.

By the reasearch I have done I will not be passing through any places that have any sort of mag ban or assault rifle restriction. The only place I will have a issue with is GA because they dont honor my CCW permit, I'll just trunk the M9.
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Not to worried about rust with this rifle Its rustolium coated now so I'm good.

 

[X-Rap]

A simple lock for the AK would be to have a couple pieces of 3/16 or 1/4 mild steel welded into a tee shape with a 3/8 hole in the end. Slip it through the space between the barrel and the gas cylinder in front of the hand guard and lock it into a chain or cable fastened to the car.

 

[advaitin]

An alternative

Try something a little smaller for your car. Depending on what you are carrying it for, this should get the job done.

 

[ball3006]

Why don't you just lock your trunk? chris3

 

[kalash]

Just lock the trunk? you do know it only takes a thief abot 15 seconds to pop the lock on your average trunk? A trunk lock is only going to keep out a 14 year old.

I do like the idea of the lock between the gas piston and barrel, a thief is not going to hand around to dissasemble the rifle to get it out of that bracket.

 

[BLB68]

You might consider a heavier cable instead of a chain. When you cut through cables, the individual wires pop out and make a mess that tends to slow people down.

That'd leave your weak point the lock. I guess a good Buffalo style lock (rounded, shrouded most of the hasp) would work, though I really don't think any style padlock is very secure.

 

[xcgates]

I like X-Rap's idea, or the one with a pelican case secured to the floor. X-Rap's idea is good for simplicity, and real compactness. I have to say something like a gun sock might not be a bad idea to keep crud out of the barrel. For X-Rap's idea, slip the sock on, then cut it where the lock goes.

Or you could tape over the barrel, I'm just not sure how well that would stay on long term.

Either way, if you are worried about people seeing a gun when you open the trunk, just toss an old blanket on top. It's what I did all the time, going along the lines of "out of sight, out of mind."

 

[PoserHoser]

Make a flat box out of plywood cover in the same carpet as your car and cut it to fit in the trunk it will only need to be a couple inches thick. totally unnoticeable if you do it right

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

A lot of these "free" gun locks are cable type now, and a cable locked rifle, with cable thru the action, would definitely slow down a pop and grab. It would also slow down YOUR use of the gun, but security comes with a price. I have a folding AK, and compromise between security and concealment in my vehicle. It has a little of both, but still gives me reasonable access. My rifle is also Norrell coated, and is pretty resistent to rust, etc.

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[Jim Watson]

Even an AK, I would put in a soft case with "buttonholes" to pass the chain through.

 

[jjjjeremy]

Could you mount a metal case to the trunk lid? There should be some sturdy mount holes behind your tool kit, and you can just stick the tools with the spare tire. From what I remember, my former 528i trunk lid was wide enough for a short hard case. You probably also have room for a similar setup on the ceiling of the trunk, although I can't remember if the ceiling can support any weight.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

I think an LEO would need a reason, AND a warrant to enter a locked trunk. I have never been asked to open my trunk on a routine traffic stop, nor would I agree to without a warrant. I don't mind if a cop does his job; I'm just not going to do it FOR him.

 

[Lou McGopher]

How about, instead of a false floor, make a false seat back? From the picture, it looks like there would be less fitting to deal with. Hold the false back in place with some simple color matching straps (could be as simple as velcro), perhaps. You'd still need a way to secure the gun... might need to cut or drill through the carpet so you can weld or bolt a steel loop or hook through which you'd run a 4-ga cable.

 

[hiawatha]

There are some states that require rifles being carried in cars to be locked in hard cases. Off hand I don't recall where they are, but there are more than a few of them. I think Illinois is one. A little legal research would be in order before you head out across the country. I don't think a BMW trunk qualifies as a hard case!

 

[X-Rap]

This is another situation in which where you live makes all the difference. I often have an uncased AR or other pistol,rifle or shotgun carried openly in my vehicle and have been through routine traffic stops in which the presence of the gun barely rates mention. I the trunk so long as you are following the laws I wouldn't worry, if a case is required get one that can be zipped from either end and zip to the cable from both sides.

 

[TX1911fan]

Just go with your idea. I think it's perfect. I laughed out loud at the Rustolium comment.

 

[kalash]

Here are the pics, told ya I used rustolium. Actually, if you want to get technical I also plasti coated it over top of the rustolium. That is the same rife used in the torture test videos, just with a differen stock setup.

The gun stays secure but just incase I will remove that tray and attach a bungie under it that I can attach to the rear sling attachment.

 

[HBrebel]

Maybe you could look into getting one of those kel-tec folding rifles. they use .223 and accept AR mags so if you were in a shtf situation at least you would be able to get ammo fairly easy. Not the greatest rifle from what I hear but better than nothing. or you could get something in a bullpup set up.

 

[kalash]

I hate kel tecs, If I was going to do that I'd toss a AR back there.

I actally built a AR for the car (that will replace the ak soon) but I gave away the hammer spring out of it to a buddy who cut and ruined his. He's got to get me a new one before I can put it in the trunk. It's a 11.5 pinned, colt upper (cut down car-15) and a bushmaster lower. It's got a bushmaster NM trigger, KAC rails, KAC VFG, troy battle ax, and a magpul CTR.

 

[ball3006]

Something smells....

with this whole exercise. You are afraid any person on the street WILL break into your car every time you are away from it. You better reevaluate where you go and hang out. You drive a BMW. They shout "steal me"......Are you dealing drugs or something else illegal? chris3

 

[kalash]

It's not that I hang out anywhere "bad" I hate that type of people with a passion. The worse place I hang out is a bar at saturday night with some friends. I have experiance with busted trunk locks so I play it safe if I keep a gun in the car.

Actually I've been "unemployed" for the last couple years, Used to be a mechanic. Technically I am "self employed" atleast thats why I am paying the %15 a year self employment tax. My business is legal, licensed, and I pay sales taxes every month.