browningguy
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Not true, he isn't on my team as I think that advocating murder is just wrong. Now other people can take what he said any way they want, but that's the way I read it.
Secret Service to interview Ted Nugent - NRA speech
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Not true, he isn't on my team as I think that advocating murder is just wrong. Now other people can take what he said any way they want, but that's the way I read it.
Here's the thing. I don't think Nuge is that radical in his stance on 2A issues. I DO think he's a ranting raving nutjob who gives gun owners a bad name. I think that we really need to distinguish between radical ideology and just being a lunatic. He falls into the category of the latter.
Why? What, exactly, does the mighty Nuge do that keeps the anti-gun media at bay?
He feeds their fire. I think that the second he disappears is the second that they lose the ability to point to him and say "You see that misogynist, draft-dodging, lunatic over there making all that noise? He represents gun owners. That's what a gun owner looks like, and how they think."
I think we'd be better off without him, although I won't go so far as to say that if he is still on the NRA board a year from now, I will either be dead or in jail.
There is a difference between political correctness, and discretion. We, as gun owners need to be a positive example.
Why? What, exactly, does the mighty Nuge do that keeps the anti-gun media at bay?
He feeds their fire. I think that the second he disappears is the second that they lose the ability to point to him and say "You see that misogynist, draft-dodging, lunatic over there making all that noise? He represents gun owners. That's what a gun owner looks like, and how they think."
I think we'd be better off without him, although I won't go so far as to say that if he is still on the NRA board a year from now, I will either be dead or in jail.
There is a difference between political correctness, and discretion. We, as gun owners need to be a positive example.
Salty1
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Just another distraction by the left to take the focus off of Obie's lack of vision and moving the country forward. Obie's on the job training has been a disaster for this country and the left cannot run on his record so the distractions will come more often as the election nears to take peoples focus off of the real issues facing us...
DammitBoy
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Nonsense. Nugent is a big mouthed jerk, but he in no way threatened the President.
Is it hypocritical for the Secret Service to now investigate Ted? ..the timing seems very political to me. In addition, the Secret Service has lost a huge amount of credibility from the hooker scandle in Columbia South America that is ongoing.
Who has done more damage and has put the POTUS at more risk; TED or the SS?
Who has done more damage and has put the POTUS at more risk; TED or the SS?
Jeremiah10:23
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If he did that before (I had not heard that) he will likely use it again.
CoRoMo
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He won't go to jail. There's no crime to charge.
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I like Ted... obviously.
I agree with what he said 100%. I can't recall ever hearing him say something that I didn't agree with.
He is a Patriot beyond measure.
That statement will be laughed at, but history will continue to bear it out. Most all of those laughing can't hold a candle to his selfless accomplishments for liberty, freedom, veterans, and the 2A. The laugh-ers simply can't do that. And they can't undo all the good that he's done for veterans, liberty, the 2A, etc. He's done more good than they can bring themselves to accept.
He dodged the uniform, but he's been a servant to those wearing it ever since.
He continues to spend more of his own money for our troops and the 2A than I'll ever have in my lifetime. I wish I could have made such an impact in the lives of wounded soldiers.
Talk -and typing- is cheap. Ted has actually done more good than many of us, all together, could dream to accomplish. It is very hard evidence to ignore. But I won't put it past many of you to ignore it anyway. I can relate to that level of stubbornness.
I have no paltry, emotional reason for saying this; I simply can't deny the truth, the evidence before us all.
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Now, today the media has an alternative to Hilary Rosen's remarks. Surprise. Like meat for dogs.
He could have said it 'softer', but it wouldn't have had the impact that it did. That was his intent. I applaud it.
Those who actually think he was making a threat, veiled or not, simply do not understand the statements he made. I don't understand this incomprehension.
It's pretty simple... in November (<-context)... we need to put an end to the enemies of our freedom and liberty. That's what he said. That's what I say.
He won't go to jail. There's no crime to charge.
Something that might be worth listening to... from the horse's mouth.
And something somewhat tangential...
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I like Ted... obviously.
I agree with what he said 100%. I can't recall ever hearing him say something that I didn't agree with.He is a Patriot beyond measure.
That statement will be laughed at, but history will continue to bear it out. Most all of those laughing can't hold a candle to his selfless accomplishments for liberty, freedom, veterans, and the 2A. The laugh-ers simply can't do that. And they can't undo all the good that he's done for veterans, liberty, the 2A, etc. He's done more good than they can bring themselves to accept.
He dodged the uniform, but he's been a servant to those wearing it ever since.
He continues to spend more of his own money for our troops and the 2A than I'll ever have in my lifetime. I wish I could have made such an impact in the lives of wounded soldiers.
Talk -and typing- is cheap. Ted has actually done more good than many of us, all together, could dream to accomplish. It is very hard evidence to ignore. But I won't put it past many of you to ignore it anyway. I can relate to that level of stubbornness.
I have no paltry, emotional reason for saying this; I simply can't deny the truth, the evidence before us all.
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Now, today the media has an alternative to Hilary Rosen's remarks. Surprise. Like meat for dogs.
He could have said it 'softer', but it wouldn't have had the impact that it did. That was his intent. I applaud it.
Those who actually think he was making a threat, veiled or not, simply do not understand the statements he made. I don't understand this incomprehension.
It's pretty simple... in November (<-context)... we need to put an end to the enemies of our freedom and liberty. That's what he said. That's what I say.
He won't go to jail. There's no crime to charge.
Something that might be worth listening to... from the horse's mouth.
And something somewhat tangential...
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CharlieDeltaJuliet
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Rajb123 is right though the timing is impeccable it happens. Happened to Neil Bush too over the S&L scandal. Politicians and their parties will target this, but both sides have done it for a long time. Ted just was mouthing off, he does not represent me or my views.
Husker_Fan
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Bubba, my family has a cousin like that
Husker_Fan
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Nugent is an entertainer who needs to keep his name in the press in order to keep making money. The NRA needs some controversy to wrangle in more donations. I don't think they'll part ways over this.
On a lighter note, Nugent is a rock star, and apparently the Secret Service like to party like rock stars. Maybe it's just a meeting to compare notes on how to do things up right.
On a lighter note, Nugent is a rock star, and apparently the Secret Service like to party like rock stars. Maybe it's just a meeting to compare notes on how to do things up right.
Furncliff
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Moron's don't make good representatives of the shooting community. That nut job will only alienate, and make all of us appear to be moronic as well.
Nugent is the village idiot of the shooting community. We may chose to look past some idiocy, but those outside our community look at that kind of behavior and those words and just think ..."***, are they all like that?"
Nugent is the village idiot of the shooting community. We may chose to look past some idiocy, but those outside our community look at that kind of behavior and those words and just think ..."***, are they all like that?"
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barstoolguru
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This is what happens when a rocker/celebrity tries to play politician. The media is going to play ball with this one
ApacheCoTodd
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""Quote:
Ted Nugent speaking
A Navy SEAL Chris Campbell, who gave his life for freedom and the U.S. Constitution, had in his will that he wanted me to perform at his funeral if he died in action. I found that from my friend Marcus Lutrell and other SEALs that I get to train with and spend time with. I immediately open my schedule up for the memorial. I got friends with planes because I was in the middle of some busy stuff. I was ready to board the plane next day to go and perform, and share the love for Chris Campbell and his family, and my office got a call from someone high up in the military letting me that somebody very high up did not want me to be in the same area that day. So I was uninvited in defiance of a dead Navy SEALs personal request.""
I dunno... I'm him, I'm all set to perform for this dead sailor's memorial and I'm going to let "someone high up" and "somebody very high up" dissuade me?
Tossin' the flag on that one. Since when is he afraid to name names?
Ted Nugent speaking
A Navy SEAL Chris Campbell, who gave his life for freedom and the U.S. Constitution, had in his will that he wanted me to perform at his funeral if he died in action. I found that from my friend Marcus Lutrell and other SEALs that I get to train with and spend time with. I immediately open my schedule up for the memorial. I got friends with planes because I was in the middle of some busy stuff. I was ready to board the plane next day to go and perform, and share the love for Chris Campbell and his family, and my office got a call from someone high up in the military letting me that somebody very high up did not want me to be in the same area that day. So I was uninvited in defiance of a dead Navy SEALs personal request.""
I dunno... I'm him, I'm all set to perform for this dead sailor's memorial and I'm going to let "someone high up" and "somebody very high up" dissuade me?
Tossin' the flag on that one. Since when is he afraid to name names?
HOWARD J
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Maybe the SS should pay the pros the money that they owe them & spend less time
planning to ""investigate"" people saying nastys about Obama.
Next they will be planning camps for people that don't bow down far enuf.
planning to ""investigate"" people saying nastys about Obama.
Next they will be planning camps for people that don't bow down far enuf.
GojuBrian
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I didn't see any threat.......
Where's the media coverage and outrage over the black panthers statements? Farrakan? Etc.....???
Where's the media coverage and outrage over the black panthers statements? Farrakan? Etc.....???
Yosemite**Sam
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I can't believe what I'm reading here. What Mr. Nugent said is in no way a threat to the president. If it was, believe me he would already be in a federal detention center awaiting arraignment.
What I'm seeing here scares me, obviously many people have their heads buried in the sand and are not paying attention to our government.
Do some research folks and maybe you'll understand where Ted is coming from.
What I'm seeing here scares me, obviously many people have their heads buried in the sand and are not paying attention to our government.
Do some research folks and maybe you'll understand where Ted is coming from.
CoRoMo
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Incorrect. Political correctness is the issue at hand here. Using the phrase 'step out of line' is transparent and handily falls short of an accurate definition of 'corruption'. Corruption takes place when rules and laws are broken, as opposed to when political correctness is violated. If the SS were to be given a pass for their recent scandal, that wouldd be corrupt.
Knowing the difference between a properly context metaphor and a threat of violence has no corruption in it. It's understanding grammatical English and it's quite decent to do so.
Correct. It was a metaphor in proper context. I couldn't have put his words better myself.
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