docnyt
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I've read that the Colt Double Eagles can be hit or miss as far as reliability. Anybody care to comment on that?
The Delta Elite came out BEFORE the S&W 10xx series. Factory 10mm ammo got watered down because a bunch of FBI agents couldn't handle the full house stuff. Winchester's 175gr Silver Tip is loaded close to the max velocities listed for 180gr JHP in the reloading manuals. Buffalo Bore and several others offer factory full house 10mm.I think the stop in production of the Smith and introduction of the Delta Elite is the reason factory ammo is so watered down
Nice collection and pics.My Kimber Stainless Target II has the thickest chamber walls out of my five 10mm's:
Left to right:
Witness Limited: 0.099"
Glock 20: 0.108"
S&W 1006: 0.130"
Kimber STII: 0.132"
A properly built 1911 handles 10mm just fine. The S&W is by far the strongest platform, though.
1911 by a decent margin. The Witness is surprisingly slender for a double stack, large-frame gun, though. If magazine capacity is a concern, the 1911 and S&W platforms hold 9, the Glock 20 holds 15, and the Witness are between 11 for compact and 21 for Henning's comp mags, with 15 being standard for full size.
I'm trying to collect them all. Not there yet, but a decent start:
If I could only keep one, though, it'd be the 1006.
This is one of the most annoying and oft-regurgitated myths about the 10mm. That's only true of bullets 165 & under, and some of the 180's. The 200, 220 and 230 gr. bullets are definitely meant for 10mm; Most 200 & up cannot be safely loaded into a .40, unless it's a .40 barrel in a 10mm frame using 10mm magazines.
This is like when people say the 8mm Rem Mag is no good because all the 8mm bullets were designed for the 8x57 mauser. Do we really think bullets like the heavy-jacketed 220 gr. BTSP Sierra offers were meant for the 8mm Mauser at a paltry 2,400 FPS?
My pet 10mm load is a Remington Golden Sabre 180 gr. with IMR-800x that leaves 5" guns at 1,406. It has performed well in all my tests.
Duh. Can't believe I forgot that one.
Yep. Here's a 1989 model, and the gun I would keep if I had to get rid of everything but one. (speechless terror)The Delta Elite came out BEFORE the S&W 10xx series. Factory 10mm ammo got watered down because a bunch of FBI agents couldn't handle the full house stuff. Winchester's 175gr Silver Tip is loaded close to the max velocities listed for 180gr JHP in the reloading manuals. Buffalo Bore and several others offer factory full house 10mm.
Don't need to regurgicate any so called myths regarding loading 40cal bullets to 10mm velocities because I do my own testing. 135gr, 150gr, 155gr, 165gr and some 180s can be blown up at 10mm velocities, yet it's a myth???
It's important to remember that you are handloading bullets designed for 40 velocities, meaning bullets will come apart when pushed to full 10mm velocities.
That's only true of bullets 165 & under, and some of the 180's.
135gr, 150gr, 155gr, 165gr and some 180s can be blown up at 10mm velocities
ok , I have a question though, A lgs around me has a smith in 10mm fo sale and it looks pretty used, would that be a better buy than a new glock? their priced right at about the same, or would the lower price for the smith be a warning to something being wrong with it?
Ouch. Mine was one third that back in '89, NIB.What the gun stores do doesn't always seem to make sense. One dealer local to me has a well used blue Delta Elite priced at $1200. If it looked like what you see in post 40, that would be one thing. As it is, I don't know what he's thinking.
Gorgeous and I am envious. And the Mustang Pocketlite just came back into production after years of hiatus.Stopped at a shop an hour north of here today and picked up a NIB Delta Elite for a nickel under $960. I was shocked. They say it came in a few days ago, just out of the blue from the factory. This and I'm sure he said a Mustang .380. I' not a Colt expert, and I don't know .380 handguns. He talked like he didn't know Colt was still making a compact .380.
m1911.10mm: is your safe lying on its back for your Delta Elite just to be sitting there, or do you have it Velcro-ed to the door?