Shotgun vs pistol.

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When not in school, I live with my mother and little brother. To get to our "safe room" involves both my little brother and myself moving through a hallway that is only 30 steps from our front door. Because of this, "slicing pie" is something that I train for and gun grabs are included in that training.

I would rather not have to move through that hallway, but it is completely necessary. My long gun of choice is my AR due to its lack of recoil and lack of over-penetration, but it is much easier with my M&P9. I am comfortable with either, but typically the AR stays in the safe room and I use my handgun to get to it safely.

The reason the AR stays in the safe room is so that my mother can have it hopefully ready to go when my brother and I get there (and she knows how to use it). With the hallway that my brother and I have to travel through being so close to the front door, it is fastest (and therefore safest) if I just have to grab my pistol as opposed to the pistol and rifle.
 
Just my opinion, but as long as the two rooms aren't situated so that they are in each other's likely field of fire, you'd be better off with you and your brother holing up in one room and your mom in the other.

Running down a hallway that is close to the likely point of entry of a threat and toward another defender who is probably pointing a gun in your general direction does not sound like a good strategy to me.

It's even more risky since it's going to require that you accomplish some fairly advanced techniques that are generally considered to be quite dangerous to accomplish solo and all the while with your little brother in tow.

Finally, it sounds very much to me like you are self-trained which may be a great approach to plinking and other types of purely recreational shooting but is not such a great idea when applied to advanced house clearing techniques, possibly in low light, with another armed defender in the house and while trying to keep track of a child.
 
Just my opinion, but as long as the two rooms aren't situated so that they are in each other's likely field of fire, you'd be better off with you and your brother holing up in one room and your mom in the other.

That is our problem, while staying in my room would allow me to shoot without my brother being near my line of fire, I would be firing directly into my mother's room.

Finally, it sounds very much to me like you are self-trained which may be a great approach to plinking and other types of purely recreational shooting but is not such a great idea when applied to advanced house clearing techniques, possibly in low light, with another armed defender in the house and while trying to keep track of a child.

This is true, I have not had any "professional" training on house clearing. For that reason, I have no intentions of clearing my house. The hallway that we have to cross is not a long one, about 5 quick steps and we are safely through. My little brother knows what will be required in this event, and actually just turned 13 so he understands that I need him to get to the safe room as quickly as possible after I am in a position to guard the hallway. (This helps me because I don't have to worry about carrying him and defending from a threat)
 
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#1 has happened and all i really had to do was explain to the guy, without opening the door, that I was the wrong address for his 6 a.m. "special delivery". The prescription drug addicts he was seeking lived a few doors down.

#2 I'd likely realize that I'd been broken into before attempting to enter myself. Jokes on the burglar though. All my stuff is really crappy and it would only mean I wouldn't have to pay the dump fees the next time we move.

#3 There are too many variables to know for sure. If it was a sudden B&E as in I'm drifting off to Buffy the vampire Slayer reruns and the front door is kicked in and suddenly dudes are in my apartment, I'd probably just be screwed unless I was able to fight them off by hand or with whatever blunt object I could grab.

However, if the BG sucks at his chosen profession and takes time and makes noise while thwarting the locks, I'd take up a barricaded position with my shotgun and call the police.

I do own a handgun, but I can't hit squat with it.
 
In the house--shotgun. One-shot stop, easier to aim, if he doesn`t stop you can butt stroke him. Also, can be much cheaper and simpler, depending on the make and model. You can generally get 2 pumps for the price of one handgun.

Like Gabe Suarez said--if somebody grabs your shotgun, shoot him off of it!!!!!
 
In the house--shotgun. One-shot stop, easier to aim, if he doesn`t stop you can butt stroke him.

While it is easier to aim it's also harder to maneuver throughout a house. I find I can't keep proper retention form and be able to present quickly when clearing my house with a long gun. I'm not against using the shotgun for in home defense, I just think people should practice clearing their house with it to understand it's limitations before settling.
 
And surviving means getting away UNSCATHED.

If a bad guy gets into your home, and you must shoot while your family is there, you and/or your family are most likely not UNSCATHED. And that is if you win the shoot out.

I presume you have won all your shoot outs. I have lost a couple of mine. My Purple Hearts and the VA are the visible remains of those losses. Just a side note, that each time I was hit, I was using a M14, not a handgun. I won all the fights where I was down to my secondary sidearms either a 1911 or S&W Revolver.

I have great difficulty with folks opening their front doors to anyone day or night that they don't know. I will not do it for cops and a spy hole is NOT the answer. Properly laid out windows or monitoring system is the answer. Be very careful with the kids or wife opening to someone in particular when you are not there.

In my own case, my aged and senile mother let a "crazy" guy in the house when I wasn't home while living with me in the last years of her life. He also caused some problems with our neighbors but thankfully left Mom and our stuff alone. By the time I got home the Sheriff's office had him well in hand. In her whole life my mother thought it would be "rude" to not open the door when the bell rang or there was a knock. I was raised in the old south, and I have manners, but opening the front door isn't one of them.

Several folks have made good and strong suggestions to harden and layer the defenses on your home. (Understanding the limitations of a rental situation). Number one if at all possible is a noisy dog. The dogs job is as the alert signal. (No matter how big and mean your dog, if the BG's are armed, all they will do is kill your dog(s)). Electronic monitored alarms without wireless capability are simple to knock out too.

I know of no authority that recommends clearing a space by yourself. Ever.

You should know your own ground, both the home and the immediate ground outside and near neighborhood that you could run it at night, in the dark. Recon your own house and yard, then the neighborhood too. Know the sounds of your house, family, animals and neighbors. This stuff doesn't cost a dime. just time. Know which boards or steps squeak, which doors make noises, etc.....

Then prepare your killing ground, at or in your safe room or often at the top of a flight of stairs (I love being set up at the top of a flight of stairs. it channels the BG's, and you are shooting down into the ground as your back stop). It should be set up for your situation, weapons, spouse/kids and your capabilities, etc... if those BG's ever enter that killing ground, literally and figuratively LIGHT'EM UP!

If you have kids, you don't need to clear, you need to MOVE! Big difference, and yes there is risk. There is always risk, when in an armed encounter no matter what you do or don't do. The idea is to accomplish the mission, your mission, with the least risk to you and yours.

My mission may be much different than yours, just one example is that my children are grown, so no munchkins or the much more dangerous and often volatile teenagers around anymore. Some teens are a plus, but most will either panic or be part of the problem.

Which weapons you choose to use should be a function of your mission and killing ground. Also the depth of your defenses. Understand you will not always be near a longarm, but if possible arrange it so you are. I do wear my CCW/EDC while in the house, mine currently is a LtWgt Colt Commander in 45acp.

Next to my bed is the double barrel 12ga hammer gun loaded with #1 buck, next to that is the SCAR with the Aimpoint T-1 turned on 24/7, In the nightstand is a well used Kimber Warrior with a Surefire X-400 and DG switch. In the Bed with me is my current S&W 642 with Crimson Trace in one of the old 55L Bianchi holsters .(the centennial and the Old Body guard models could be shot repeatedly from under the covers or inside the sleeping bag without jamming. It will most often start a small fire though. Yes I do actually train for that and shooting out of the pocket too.)

Next to the longarms is the active shooter bag (Maxpedition w/o external pouch's) with another Colt Gunsite Government model, an additional three magazines for the SCAR and the 1911's, a box of #1's for the shotty, and two Bianchi speed strips for the S&W. First aid/trauma kit, folding knives, a couple additional SureFire flashlights, battery's a bottle of water, two sets of handcuffs, etc.... I have the same model different color Active shooter bag for my vehicle, similarly equipped with allowances.

It is your, home, your family, and your situation. Much of the work doesn't cost a dime, and you can do it during almost any free time you have. Don't forget to do your Recce's both during the day and at night hopefully while taking nice walks with your spouse. Get to know your neighbors. If the SHTF, most likely you will have to rely on each other for at least a while. Occasionally a neighbor will surprise you in a good way. It happens.

If you do not have the fighting experience, get training. Even if you have the experience update your training, and get it with ALL the different weapons you or your family may use. (active family members need training and practice too) Practice with and maintain your weapons.

I know one young fellow, who makes this a big family outing deal, both at home, when they run drills around the house, and when they go for training. He has all the older kids and Mom shoot an occasional IDPA match with him too. They have fun.

Even though each of us may have similar missions, each of us has a different situation. Only you and your loved ones, have to live or not with your solution. I profoundly hope you never have to use or find out if your preparations and or weapon choices work like you planned. Unfortunately they rarely do, it's that "first contact" thingy.

Good luck.

Fred
 
Original Post listed three scenarios. I think the poster intended to say "you're in it," so no chance at this point of avoidance.

If it's a knock on door, I'm answering while wearing a pistol. If it comes at really weird hours, one of us is hollering through the door, then maybe answering, while the other is backup.

If I walk into it, I'll have only the pistol I'm wearing.

If goblins are attacking while we're home, the "His" shotgun is a "Winchester Marine model, while "Hers" is a Remington, both 12 gauge and high capacity. If it's me first, and they're smart enough to surrender when challenged, they may survive. If she gets to one of her guns while they're threatening the family, they are dead.
 
You cannot really do (#2) walking into the house with the shotgun - esp if the shotgun is inside the home.

Pistol for me all day. Less collateral damage, easier to carry/conceal, and carries more rounds. Shotguns have their purpose; so choose your own weapons wisely.
 
I am not sure I understand the idea of a deterrent for a home invader. Deterrents come from lighting, alarm signs, landscaping, video surveillance... When someone kicks in your door, or otherwise gains illegal entry into your house, if the situation is resolved from the perp seeing a gun then that is great, but deterrence is no longer my priority at that stage.

That being said you are not talking about confrontation, but defending your family. If I am in that position I would rather a shotgun. My thought is that you ford up in one area, call the police and wait. If you walk in and think your house has been burglarized, you leave and call the police.
 
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