I've been perusing the five won't buy thread and I noticed some trends that, along with some "demotivational" style posters, led me to some questions that, if y'all cared to answer, I'd be happy to read the replies.
1. Why do people hate HK? Between my old man and myself, we own four, and, other than the 22 mag being slightly picky on the brand of hollowpoints it likes to feed well, they've been great guns. I really like my USP Elite 45, the thing's a tack driver, best mags on a pistol I've seen, and, other than my Model 29-2 and my 1911, the best single action trigger I've got as well. So, I don't get it. Are people THAT angry that they cost more than Glocks?
2. Why do people hate Taurus? I know they copy gun designs, and, of the five between my old man and I, the trigger is hard on the Millennium first gen we have, and I had to crank the rear sight all the way up on the PT-101 to get it to shoot where I aimed, along with some slide rail wear, but they are not guns I wouldn't trust with my life, provided good care and ammo. Some people seem so mistrusting of Taurus that I guess they wouldn't mind having one pointed at them and the trigger pulled, as they surely won't go off, or something like that. I've heard the Taurus customer service horror stories, but the one we sent in, the aforementioned Millennium, came back days early with a *somewhat* better trigger. While I do feel that they are cheaper guns than, say, HK, for instance, my personal line for minimum quality is exceeded by Taurus.
3. Why do folks hate the Taurus Judge? I bought one for my old man for Christmas a couple years ago, and I got the blued, 2.5" chamber, 3" barrel, blued model. I think it was @400 dollars, not the 550 or 600 people claim. Anyway, the 45 Colt at 25 yards is decently accurate, 3-5" groups offhand, and the shotshell is pure fun. I can't imagine a better snake gun. Also, those HD or 00 buck rounds would positively wreck your Christmas at under 10 yards..we're not talking 12 gauge here, but it's a PISTOL. Granted, the pattern gets out of control fast past that, but I think the gun does all it was designed to do, and does it well. Cleaning shotgun residue out of rifling does indeed suck, however, but that's my only gripe. But, from it being a Taurus, and being a .410, surely many here would not mind it being pointed at them, either, judging by the comments.
While I am, by no means, employed by, or am an apologist for, either company or its guns, I do own a few examples from both companies, and the very gun in question in the third point, and I just don't see where the animosity and hate is merited. I can only postulate that those that are the most vocal might be the most uninformed, at least by my standards, as I feel one should have at least shot an example of a model of a gun before disparaging it.
1. Why do people hate HK? Between my old man and myself, we own four, and, other than the 22 mag being slightly picky on the brand of hollowpoints it likes to feed well, they've been great guns. I really like my USP Elite 45, the thing's a tack driver, best mags on a pistol I've seen, and, other than my Model 29-2 and my 1911, the best single action trigger I've got as well. So, I don't get it. Are people THAT angry that they cost more than Glocks?
2. Why do people hate Taurus? I know they copy gun designs, and, of the five between my old man and I, the trigger is hard on the Millennium first gen we have, and I had to crank the rear sight all the way up on the PT-101 to get it to shoot where I aimed, along with some slide rail wear, but they are not guns I wouldn't trust with my life, provided good care and ammo. Some people seem so mistrusting of Taurus that I guess they wouldn't mind having one pointed at them and the trigger pulled, as they surely won't go off, or something like that. I've heard the Taurus customer service horror stories, but the one we sent in, the aforementioned Millennium, came back days early with a *somewhat* better trigger. While I do feel that they are cheaper guns than, say, HK, for instance, my personal line for minimum quality is exceeded by Taurus.
3. Why do folks hate the Taurus Judge? I bought one for my old man for Christmas a couple years ago, and I got the blued, 2.5" chamber, 3" barrel, blued model. I think it was @400 dollars, not the 550 or 600 people claim. Anyway, the 45 Colt at 25 yards is decently accurate, 3-5" groups offhand, and the shotshell is pure fun. I can't imagine a better snake gun. Also, those HD or 00 buck rounds would positively wreck your Christmas at under 10 yards..we're not talking 12 gauge here, but it's a PISTOL. Granted, the pattern gets out of control fast past that, but I think the gun does all it was designed to do, and does it well. Cleaning shotgun residue out of rifling does indeed suck, however, but that's my only gripe. But, from it being a Taurus, and being a .410, surely many here would not mind it being pointed at them, either, judging by the comments.
While I am, by no means, employed by, or am an apologist for, either company or its guns, I do own a few examples from both companies, and the very gun in question in the third point, and I just don't see where the animosity and hate is merited. I can only postulate that those that are the most vocal might be the most uninformed, at least by my standards, as I feel one should have at least shot an example of a model of a gun before disparaging it.
, just their price tag. If I can't afford 'em, I will never own 'em. I hear their CS is less than stellar as well, but that is hearsay. I'll never know personally due to aforementioned reason.
