Teen, bleeding on stretcher, shot dead in Detroit

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No need to protect yourself thats what we have Police for right.
Maybe if the ambulance personel had been armed things could have turned out differently.

http://www.freep.com/news/locway/shoot7e_20050607.htm

Teen, bleeding on stretcher, shot dead in Detroit

Youth wounded, later finished off

June 7, 2005

BY AMBER HUNT MARTIN and BEN SCHMITT
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS

He lay on a stretcher racked with bullets and screaming for help. Then the masked man returned with a bigger gun to finish the job.

As paramedics frantically stripped 17-year-old Billie Rutledge to find the first series of bullet wounds and try to save his life, the man, now armed with a shotgun, walked up to the driveway on Omira in northern Detroit. He ordered paramedics to step aside.

With that, he leveled the shotgun at Rutledge, as the paramedics fled, and blasted the teen early Saturday morning in the top of the head.

Police are investigating whether Rutledge was killed because he knew too much or was connected to a March 12 slaying in Detroit.

"We've heard that he was involved in a previous crime with another individual that is know
n to us," Detroit police spokesman James Tate said Monday of Rutledge. "But there is no official information yet to lead us to confirm that."

Tate said police have a warrant for a 29-year-old Detroit man in connection with the March slaying of Shadad Yousif, the 45-year-old owner of Thomas Auto Repair, also on Omira.

Lemuel Rutledge, 15, identified the 29-year-old as the man he thinks killed his brother, Billie, on Saturday. The Free Press is withholding the suspect's name because he has not been charged in connection with Billie Rutledge's killing.

Lemuel Rutledge said the man is known in the neighborhood as both a drug dealer and a hit man. Detroit police have listed him as one of the city's most wanted.

As for Billie Rutledge's alleged role in the Yousif killing, Lemuel Rutledge said: "I believe he drove the car or he knew about it. ... Police caught up with him and asked him some questions" about the shooting of the auto repair shop owner.

Saturday's gunman "thought Billie was going to rat on him," he added.

Billie Rutledge reportedly was released from jail on Friday after serving time for a misdemeanor conviction. He was sleeping at a friend's house on Omira, near State Fair, when an acquaintance woke him up and asked him to go for a walk.

Lemuel Rutledge, who met with police Sunday to help in the investigation, said his brother and the acquaintance walked up the street together.

But his brother was nervous and stopped to talk to a woman sitting on her front porch, Lemuel Rutledge said investigators told him.

"He told her he felt he was being set up for something," Lemuel Rutledge said Monday of what police told him. "She said, 'If you feel like you're being set up, you need to leave the neighborhood then and go home.' "

Five minutes later, shots rang out.

According to police reports, EMS arrived about 3:30 a.m. and found Billie Rutledge lying in a driveway, bleeding from small-caliber bullet wounds and yelling, "Help me! Help me!"

Paramedics put him on a stretcher and snipped off his clothing to find the gunshot wounds. The paramedics, James Peyton and Toby Hanna, then heard the sound of a shotgun racking as they carried the stretcher to an ambulance.

That's when they turned and saw the gunman.

"Watch out, watch out," the gunman said, causing Peyton and Hanna to flee.

The two ran about 12 feet before they heard two shots, the report states. They were not injured and were on optional stress leave on Monday.

"The medics are doing fine," said Chief Gary Kelly of the EMS division of the Detroit Fire Department.

When police arrived, Billie Rutledge was nude with shotgun blasts to his head and left shoulder. Police also recovered shell casings and three shells from a small handgun in a nearby driveway.

Because the gunman wore a ski mask, no witnesses were able to provide identification other than an approximate height of 6 feet.

Anyone with information on Saturday's slaying is asked to call Detroit Police at 313-596-2260 anytime.
 
I thought it was pretty much standard procudure everywhere that police would arrive to secure the scene of a shooting before the medics went in.
 
Because the gunman wore a ski mask, no witnesses were able to provide identification
Haven't we been over this already that the wearing of masks in public is banned? maybe we need to go further and ban all hoods and hats. :rolleyes:
 
The kid on the stretcher should have just "given the guy with the gun what he wanted, and he would've been ok". Also, the presence of handguns would have just "escalated the situation into a violent one, possibly provoking the masked man to shoot someone".

:rolleyes:

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It would be easy to second guess, but it seems to me that the medics ought to have not gone on scene till LE was available! Obviously the scene was not secured!
Rule #1 of EMS
Dead Heroes Save No Lives!
 
Tell that to the guy with the shotgun. :) Maybe the paramedics can carry training materials with them on the proper interpretation of gun laws and wearing masks to help educate these people. :rolleyes:
 
***?!?!?!

I work in EMS, any time we get a shooting call, we have po-po on scene BEFORE we go in. There should have been cops on scene investigating the shooting. and prepared to protect the patient as he is now a witness to a criminal act. This would be one case where the cops DO have an obligation to protect an individual.

As for arming medics, when the guy with the gauge has the drop on you do YOU think you can beat him on the draw?
 
Nice to see everybody sticking up for the gangbanger's RKBA, maybe if they had taken each other out we could have just called it a wash.
 
Nice to see everybody sticking up for the gangbanger's RKBA, maybe if they had taken each other out we could have just called it a wash.


Where do you see anyone sticking up for the gangbangers? :scrutiny:
 
This PROVES that Detroit's gun laws make people safer. :neener:

No kidding, imagine what've happened to the kid if it'd happened in a less "gun safe" city- he may have been in real trouble then.

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"Your point? I won't deny that right to anyone."

How generous of you. The criminals, illegals and mentally ill will be grateful.

I never woulda thunk a gang hit would be RKBA fodder. Medics are'nt cops, cops are'nt medics. Many big city medics wear armor, but I think they handled this about as well as could be expected.
 
I work in EMS, any time we get a shooting call, we have po-po on scene BEFORE we go in.

I don't know about now, but a while ago, there was bad blood between Detroit EMS and the DPD because of the Malice Green incident. This isn't the first time something like this has happened. At least this guy let the medics get out of the way. I had a friend on EMS who, while he and his partner were assisting a patient walk to the rig, had the patient shot from between them. :what:
 
I'm with Mcmoyer. :what: A city where the thugs are bold enough to chase away the EMTs to murder somebody is a bad place.

If only guns and murder were outlawed......oh yea, :uhoh:
 
One thing to consider about arming the paramedics (actually a couple).

The paramedics have a job to do that requires their attention. I may be reading to much into this story, but it sounds to me like they were in condition white. Otherwise they would have already run away the minute they saw a guy with a shotgun approaching. So, them being armed wouldn't have helped anything. In fact, it might have been worse because now they might be viewed as a threat. The point isn't nessesarily just about being armed, but they need to be aware of their surroundings and scene safety.



One other minor note as a professional courtesy: The article identifies them as paramedics. Not EMTs. Paramedic is a professional license and signifies a level of education well beyond EMT. At our local community college, the course is over a year longer than the EMT Intermediate class. I think the EMT class is one semester. Paramedic is a degree program. On the fire department I work for the difference in pay is 10%.
 
Whoever called Detriot 'Little Mogadishu' wasn't too far off. Detroit is not a nice town. Sure, there are nice suburbs, but the actual City of Detriot is not a nice place. See below for my feelings on that drain on Michigan.

And if a guy with a shotgun pointed at me tells me to step aside, I'm doing it.
 
Wasn't there a recent news story about plowing under parts of innercity Detroit and returning it to farm land ?
 
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