The Antis are wearing me down.

[Deanimator]

2. Most liberals (myself included) are against the drug war. One of the main reasons being that it has only increased crime, yet they think banning guns will decrease it.

"Guns aren't drugs!!!"

That's the response I got today... that's it, nothing else.

I'm a liberal too. It utterly baffles me that out of one side of somebody's mouth they can [rightfully] damn the corruption, racism and brutality of the Chicago PD [now available on DVD!] and out of the other claim they should be the ONLY ones with guns, because they'll "protect" you.

At the same time, the misogyny is so thick you need a chainsaw to cut it. Women are regularly portrayed as airheaded ninnies who can't even tell if they're actually being raped, and who will shoot the first man who stops them on the street to ask directions. As well, women are portrayed as so stupid that they'd give an assailant their gun rather than shoot him with it, OR so cowardly that they couldn't possibly pull the trigger when the need arose.

Last but not least, Blacks are treated as little better than animals, driven to heights of bloodlust by the mere sight of a firearm.

And all of this comes from so-called "liberals" who sound a lot more like Pat Buchanan, Marge Schott and Don Imus. Of course I guess you can CALL yourself anything in the world.

 

[benelli12]

This is what happens when you interfere with natural selection...

You get closed minded, stubborn, ignorant people who refuse to listen to the facts and have there mind set...

I feel your pain...and it hurts

Some people can't be "saved" as I like to call it.

 

[NM234]

hahaha "Guns aren't drugs!", again they are ignoring that making a product available only through the black market increases crime, increases the danger of the product, vastly increases the cost of the product, and as the drug war has shown stops no one who wants it from getting it if they are willing to break the law. No Guns aren't drugs, neither is ice cream. But if you made ice cream illegal crime syndicates and criminally minded idividuals would take control of ice cream causing horriffic effects. Uh-oh, we better not give these so called "liberals" the idea of outlawing ice cream, they'll do it to protect us from brain freeze

 

[Crunker1337]

If that idiot who threatened to beat up anyone he saw packing goes through on his threat to you, do what you must to stay among the living.

 

[Green Lantern]

Thanks for all of the replies! I'm feelin' much better now, in large part due to more responses and debate among others on one board in particular. Even the antis, for the most part, are civil about it.

A far cry from being told to, er, "have relations" with myself when I pointed out how "well" VT's gun free zone 'safety' measure worked out at another place!

As for the guy that's going to show what a REAL upstanding citizen does? I - well, it's the Internet. For all I know he's right up the road from me. But even if he lives in an anti-gun haven, I tend to imagine people like THAT being all bark and no bite!

And if they DO back up their words - more power for our position I guess...!

One of the benefits of being on The High Road is learning how to STAY on The High Road. I've been goaded into losing my cool in 'net debates in the past, not fun OR helpful.

But I was able to come back for a "round two" of sorts later at that place after learning a thing or two. Too bad the whole thing got deleted thanks to the "anti." It was a nifty sight, me calmly making my points where the "rebuttals" were f-bomb laced rants.

As for other activism, I do support GOA, SAF, and the NRA (though my thoughts on the recent "controversy" with the latter are on record here elsewhere). I've had several letters published in local papers, including one just on the 19th. I hope to find more tomorrow!

 

[wacki]

Pick your battles. Aim for low hanging fruit by only worrying about those on the fence. Never let a crazy get to you. Use them as practice only cuz they will never change there mind.

Good luck and don't give up (or stress out)!

 

[ConfuseUs]

I don't debate with antis on the Internet but I've watched others do it!

Antigunner arguments for their position are generally so advanced, well-worded, and thought out that I marvel at the frail edifice of my own reasons for supporting gun ownership.

Oh wait, generally they strike me as bigoted, hateful, ignorant, poorly reasoned, or threatening. That's the real reason for debating them on the Internet; their own arguments hurt them more than any we could make.

 

[TheDisturbed1]

www.guncite.com just made it to the top of my favorites, thanks!

 

[mec]

"ConfuseUs "I don't debate with antis on the Internet but I've watched others do it!

Ted Nugent lives here and has a column in the local news paper. His piece on Gun Free Zones has prompted some comment. One woman said their is nothing in the Judeo- Christian tradition supporting ownership of weapons. Right off hand, I know of three. Not being a bible scholar, I can't site their location but there is the one about waiting for a thief, the one about selling your spare garment and buying a sword and the one that says " a strong man armed keepeth his goods in peace."

The individual obviously gets her Bible second hand (like me). I do wish though, that people who use that particular instrument like a club would at least read it. The same woman believes she is paying her taxes so that the police will protect her from people like Ted.

 

[Checkman]

Watch the movie Crash to see how Liberals view the world.

Alot of the anti's are just full of hate and anger. I remember being in New York City (12/99) and overhearing a conversation between two well dressed stockbrokers. We were down by Wall Street so I'm guessing as to their profession. They were going off about the gun crazies in the West and South. Their "Final Solution" would have made the Nazi's proud. Scary stuff for such "civilized" men.

 

[deadin]

I know this isn't going to be a popular response here but think about it:

Some people's minds are firmly closed, and you're just not going to get any traction with them.

and

People with the attitudes you have indicated will never change. They live within an ideological bubble where ideas dissimilar to theirs do not exist. Arguing with them is like trying to nail jello to the wall.

These statements could just as well come from an anti RKBA board.
My point is that there really isn't any future in trying to argue or even deal with these types, they're not going to change.