THR blocked on US Army computers

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thumbody:


I fed at the Government trough for over 34years and I can verify that we indeed did get breaks..

In fact I was retired almost 3 years before I realized I wasn't just on another "extended" break...

In fact retirement kinda reminds me of those extended breaks....

(A little)...

Best Wishes,

;) JP
 
Bandwidth Experience

Hi all,

I work a lot on government networks. Most of the Defense sites are on a unclassified network called NIPRNET. In some spaces, NIRNET is migrating to NMCI. The argument against a wide-open Internet interface presented to me was one of bandwidth. The vast majority of network traffic, and we are talking big numbers on NIPRNET, is the responses from websites. The math is simple, a http request going out is very small, but the reply back is huge.

The non-work related network traffic was choking the mission. To be honest, if that argument is true I'm pretty much for the filter.

John
 
Back in the USA for two weeks. It is good to be home.

For those of you asking why I was surfing the internet at work the answer is simple. I wasn't. I live on base and use the compers at the community center internet cafe when not at work.

The military group I am with isn't so bad about weapons. All teh soldiers carry their personal weapons with them and are required to have at least one loaded magazine.

For those of us on the civilian side of the house we have to have our weapons secured in the arms room except when on duty. From what I gather though, that is the companies fault not the military's (company is based in PRNJ and has the expected attitudes that come with it.)

I talked to the head of the MWR at camp and he said there was nothing he could do. I am not sure if it is just he doesn't want to do it or that is the policy of this particular command.
 
MWR computers on most posts run through the same set of post servers that all the work computers do, and thus are stuck with the same set of filters. At least, that was the case at Ft Jackson-I couldn't look up anything on the library computers that I couldn't get to on my office computer.

But what is filtered varies by installation. Ft Jackson didn't block Blogger/Blogspot, but Ft Lewis does.

And THR and AR15.com are both accessable at Ft Lewis, but TFL isn't. Go figure.
 
My company uses Websense to filter websites.

Until espn.com and other sports sites are blocked as much as firearms and computer gaming sites, I'll never buy the argument that they are blocked for not being work-related.
 
EDS has claimed that bandwidth in not an issue. NMCI is just a huge cluster.

I had to download a program, an OFFICAL, DoD Prepared and required to run by instruction. It HAD TO BE DONE.

So I get the program and burn it to disk. The AV program goes off, and NMCI shuts off my network drop. FOR A WEEK. The next day, I am pulled in from of the bosses to explain my 'hacking'. I show them the program, and they all deflate like a Macys Day Parade balloon. No heads would roll.

The NMCI guy shows up, does what could only be called a 'tacticle entry' into my space and DEMANDS to know who was hacking. I show him the OFFICIAL program. He leaves.

NMCI issues an e-mail. DO NOT DOWNLOAD PROGRAM X. Even though its reuqired, and I showed everyone the instruction. NMCI say's if you run that program your drop will be turned off.

A week later my port gets turned on.

NMCI is a bunch of ***** lead by a higher paid bunch of *****.
 
amen to that! funny thing is they block ar15.com but not ak-47.net, geocities.com but not go.com, anything.ru but not anything.ca...absolute low-rent morons...:cuss:
 
I use Google as a free anonymous server by using the translate feature. Use the following link:

Click me!

The actual url is:

http://www.google.com/translate?langpair=en|en&u=www.thehighroad.org

This will get you THR. Just substitute whatever url you need at the end and you will be good to go.
 
Is it only firearms sites that are blocked? I am retired but some of my former colleagues tell me that there are quite a few sites blocked including some they need to do their work.
 
Basically you are not supposed to be using government computers for personal use. However they try to maintain access to the internet which will be useful to people using it for work. (atleast this is the way it works for government offices) They have different policies at different bases.

Usually access control is maintained locally. I'm filtered out of just about every gun site but THR. Gun sights are normally blocked out because they are "Mature" in subject mater. At least thats the message I usually get. I used to get on Glocktalk alot when I worked in a real slow job. But they eventually filtered it out.

Another board I visit, Rapture Ready was blocked for a couple months then they brough it back. Not sure why its still against policy but I'm not complaining.
 
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THR isn't blocked at Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division China Lake.

Careful what you say Yellowlab, those NMCI machines have more rights than the both of us combined.

Oh, and to make my post firearms related, the PEQ-2s that we use are cool, so yeah, they're cool.
 
My company uses Websense to filter websites.

Until espn.com and other sports sites are blocked as much as firearms and computer gaming sites, I'll never buy the argument that they are blocked for not being work-related
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My company uses Websense too. The main reason I post on THR is because it is one of the few guns sites that isn't filtered as "Category: Weapons [...] denied." What's funny is THR's library is blocked by Websense, but nothing else is.

Good point on espn.

However, even though I think Google is evil, I might try that translating service.



Edit: Tried Google's translation service, and it still got blocked.

One funny thing (since no one saw) that happened to me at work is I did an image search on Google for "Mini-14", and one of the first images that popped up was some porn (note: that image doesn't appear anymore).
 
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They turn on just about any site I wish for but the yahoo forums. They flat told me I do not care what you look at unless it is porn. But if you are bidding on stuff at ebay from work or on the chats then its hard to defend you to the ones doing the blocking.
I started getting the sites un blocked when they started blocking places like the CMP and the such. It helps when the guys are friends and gun owners also.
 
Yes, please explain this binary thing...

little help please......how exactly are you supposed to enter the binary conversion?

209.51.144.70 converts to:

11010001.110011.10010000.1000110 correct?

I tried this (http://11010001.110011.10010000.1000110/) in IE and Firefox and got nowhere......
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I can convert to binary easily enough. But I've never heard of using binary in the place of decimal representations of IP addresses. I would think, though, that you'd leave the dots (periods) out, so that you have a 32 character string of 1's and '0s. But I tried that with the above, and it didn't work eather.

So please, explain how this works. Don't point us to a page on how to convert to binary. Tell us how to use binary in an URL.
 
Ahem, how do you know it was a low-life scum civilian? Maybe a low-life soldier or airman set up the filtering software and left in the default settings?

Signed, your friendly low-life civilian network engineer.
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Because they are contracted out in most of the state side, and some of the overseas environments. Simple result of IT boom. Enlisted person joins AF, gets tired of being treated poorly for low pay(in comparison to what IT guys were making during the boom.) gets out at first opportunity. Air Force is so low on IT guys that they are forced to hire outside contractors. Present times, Enlisted person, goes into service, learns computers, gets out only to return the next day in civies and a goatie and 2X the pay (probably sitting at the same desk).

edited--- to correct grammatical errors
 
I returned from my vacation (bought a nice new bushmaster while in the states) and low and behold the net filters on the MWR computers have been turned off. I don't know if one of the soldiers hacked the network or the powers that be decided that adults should be treated like adults, but I can access THR again. Life is good.
 
Eric_the_bold A little help please......how exactly are you supposed to enter the binary conversion?

209.51.144.70 converts to:

11010001.110011.10010000.1000110 correct?

I tried this (http://11010001.110011.10010000.1000110/) in IE and Firefox and got nowhere......
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Fantacmet, please explain in the form post about your binary method.

As Eric_The_Bold stated, your binary method did not work at all.


Please try again, although I do not think it will ever work, post EXACTLY how you would get THR to work with the binary method.

RTFM
 
Ok I am going to correct this here. First of all I need to respond to someone's post.

johnmcl as a network administrator, and engineer with a degree here shortly, plus over 11 years of personal experience, and being a founding member of more then one hacker underground group in my past, I can tell you in no uncertain terms the excuse you were given about the question of bandwidth is complete and utter BS. Bandwidth coming down from the web is nothing compared to internal bandwidth being sucked up. Although that point is someone clouded due to the internal speed being far greater, probably a gigabit connection internally. It actually ends up leveling out. Unless they are running low end DSL or slower, the bandwidth isn't going to be a problem. There are other things I could say as well to prove the point, but I am not allowed to, if you catch my meaning and somehow I think you know exactly what I mean by not allowed.

Now onto the binary conversion not working. That is my fault, things have changed a bit and I failed to do my research. The conversion still woorks, but you need to go a bit further.


Ok do the conversion as normal(don't use the decimal to binary conversion in the calculator, because it truncates the 0's and screws it up, do the binary conversion manually). For THR.org it works out to........................

209.51.144.70 = 11010001.00110011.10010000.01000110

From here open up your trusty windows calculator, and click view and change to scientific view(or any other scientific calculator), and set it to binary(bin). Now enter in the binary address (minus the dots) and you have, 11010001001100111001000001000110 and now click on dec(for decimal, and it will end up as 3509817414 now type http://3509817414 into your browser and THR will pop up. I just tried it myself and it works. It is a bit slower then entering in the IP or domain, because it has to convert it instead of just looking it up, but it does work. Thanks to Sir.Thanatos of PHUnification hacker underground, and 2600 magazine, for the correction, and inspiration respectively.

If the website is still blocked it is done so at a hardware level, and can still be gotten around, but then there would be charges on you and charges on me, so I won't be covering that. If you want to go that route fine but I will no tbe held responsible, but read the book titled "The Art of Intrustion" by Kevin Mitnick, for area's where to get started and idea's.

Rev. Michael

P.S.
This is just a disclaimer, that you might want to check your policies regarding this first, I put this up for freedom purposes, freedom of information, security by obscurity is stupid and not security. Also security is NOT a product, it is a process. So use this info at your own risk. You may want to try it at home before trying it at work. Anyway there it is, I showed you how, and then saved you the time in doing it if you want to just write it down, but I still urge you to go through the process. It is more knowledge and we all know what knowledge is.
 
I'll have to keep that in mind, but if people just want to go here, all they need do is write down the decimal I provided. LOL. It's the exact one for here. I may end up in the future at some point on my website put up the decimal verrsions already done, to alot of sights that might be banned that shouldn't be.

Rev. Michael
 
Everything but THR

I'm at Travis AFB, and THR is one of the only gun-related sites not blocked.
I can get to some sites using an anonymiser, but that's pretty slow. You'd think that being in the military they would want us to be interested in small arms, but the are some pretty unfriendly policies regarding private firearm ownership. For instance, Airmen who live in the dormitories can't keep any weapons with the exception of small pocketknives in their rooms. They have to check firearms into the base armory, and I've heard horror stories of how private weapons were fired without consent of the owner and never cleaned, and I've heard of many weapons being dinged and scratched while in care of the armory.

Z. Davidoff
 
It's blocked at Moody AFB, too.
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I've noticed the AF seems to block a lot of stuff. I was able to access
THR in the sandbox, but it depends who you get your feed from. Every
little signal co has their own policy (and CDR) and it depends who your
co is piggy backing off of.

I found certain religious sites blocked (which seemed more or less random)
not to mention anything that might carry Al-Q agitprop (more deliberate).
Known proxies are also blocked.
 
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