My family is pro gun but even they arnt as educated as they should be. My mother thought I would have to register my ar-15 once i was 18 so it would legally be mine. She did not understand that there was no gun registry and once I was 18 she said "here ya go" it was mine, no strings attached because I was not a felon. I had alot of family that dont know this either. I have friends who blew 800$ on toy airsoft guns and parts trying to make a working gun, no joke.
TV shows and anti gun propaganda
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Trunk Monkey
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Small point of order
Wouldn't it be, by definition, 100% of crimes are committed by criminals ?
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Wouldn't it be, by definition, 100% of crimes are committed by criminals ?
Big_John1961
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The problem is that misinformation like we see in these shows foments more ignorance about guns in many people who watch. That makes them dangerous to the gun rights movement, and simply choosing to ignore them isn't good enough.FitGunner said:
SVU is one of the stupidest shows using guns on the planet. What do you expect?
It's in Bloomberg city - the best was when Olivia loaded her Glock with rubber bullets so that she wouldn't kill a guy trying to set a woman on fire.
Do you need more?
It's in Bloomberg city - the best was when Olivia loaded her Glock with rubber bullets so that she wouldn't kill a guy trying to set a woman on fire.
Do you need more?
beatledog7
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I cancelled pay TV over a year ago. Mine's on right now, tuned to the last bastion of actual reality TV: sports. Specifically, Rugby Sevens, a real sport for non-sissies.
The TV cop shows, lawyer shows, PI shows, etc. have been silly for decades. Fro what I've seen, their treatment of civilian gun ownership is uninformed and slanted at best, and pretty much always has been. Westerns and sci-fi shows, in contrast, usually treat guns fairly and respectfully.
The TV cop shows, lawyer shows, PI shows, etc. have been silly for decades. Fro what I've seen, their treatment of civilian gun ownership is uninformed and slanted at best, and pretty much always has been. Westerns and sci-fi shows, in contrast, usually treat guns fairly and respectfully.
justice06rr
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Yes, I hate tv shows that give so much false info. Not only about guns but everything else like cars, etc.
I think it was CSI Miami that was able to track a particular car (Mitsubishi Eclipse) only by its tire footprint and wheelbase. Many cars can use the same exact tire and have the same wheelbase, yet they tracked down this exact car down to the color.
I might as well watch movies like "Fast n Furious" or "Shooter" because we all know most of them are fiction.
I think it was CSI Miami that was able to track a particular car (Mitsubishi Eclipse) only by its tire footprint and wheelbase. Many cars can use the same exact tire and have the same wheelbase, yet they tracked down this exact car down to the color.
I might as well watch movies like "Fast n Furious" or "Shooter" because we all know most of them are fiction.
My point with that is we live with a lot of drooling morons for whom TV is their teacher and life guide. The media is a tool of influence with a little intertainment thrown in.
All content of programing is used to influence what people buy, and how they think. No matter what the show, or program, is called it is used for propaganda toward a way of living and thinking.
I got into discussions with two different females that live in my apartment complex this last couple months regarding gun control issues. I did not start the conversasion topics either time. Both of these people spouted the exact same retoric that came from TV on the issue. When I tried to point out that NO you can not just buy a gun on the internet and have it shipped to your home, they both took issue with me as they had heard it from TV News.
I explained to them that the 1968 GCA would not allow that, so the truth is that since then it has not been legal. They just give you the look and move on to the next piece of mis-informtion they learned from the TV.
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roval
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there's a crime show(the one with Ice-T) that I saw the latter part of just after I got my les baer. it appeared that there was a les baer pistol in a crime scene that was then pilfered by the detective who then retired and his daughter used it like a sniper from 100 yards head shot at night(that part of the show I didn't catch). it was just interesting how they kept calling it "the les baer" rather than the 1911 or the 45 and how they talked about. it was as if it was a mythical super accurate pistol. it was great publicity for Baer. Mind you I love mine.
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Arkansas Paul
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Makes sense to me.
I think he was trying to say something like a high percentage of crime is committed by career criminals, previously convicted criminals, recidivists, etc. or something to that effect. In other words, if they hadn't gone through the revolving door, their subsequent crimes wouldn't have been committed. In the midst of a rant it's ok to be a little fuzzy with the language. Hope I didn't misinterpret that.
steelerdude99
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Just an opinion, but two different groups. A non-criminal is a person who may own a gun and has never been convicted of a gun prohibiting act. A criminal is someone who has already been convicted. Someone who is a criminal and has access to firearms (via illegal means) is a problem. They have either straw purchaser or has a stolen firearm. The convicted criminal is more likely to use an illegally obtained firearm to commit more criminal activities.
Chuck
^^^^^This. Well said, and exactly correct on all counts. They also, along with most Dem politicians want a Euro style socialist state, again for more control, and personal power.
Thank goodness for cable tv, and the internet which gives non MSM alternatives that show legally owned guns in a positive light.
BoltActionPrepper
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Don't get me started! If i keep grinding my teeth i aint gonna have any!
Deanimator
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Learning about firearms from TV dramas is like learning about astrophysics by watching "Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars".
Life During Wartime
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I understand where your coming from on this, but, is it possible that the gun in the show was supposed to be an antique? like maybe a very old 1911, from 1911 or something like that?
Frosty Dave
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I noticed that this week in S2E2, but I didn't think Longmire was questioning her, I thought he gave her the hairy eyeball and she replied that it was registered. I laughed. But it wasn't unreasonable to suspect her from his point of view. She led him to the body of a guy who had been shot, and she had a pistol on her hip.
I have to wonder if the writers were just ignorant of gun laws or if they threw the "registered" comment in for the viewers who are ignorant. Otherwise all these people who think you can buy a gun directly from the internet and then need to register it would get sidetracked, wondering why the wily old sheriff overlooked this "important" piece of evidence.
justice06rr
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Tv sitcoms are becoming more dramatic and truth-less. But then again they are not run or owned by Pro-2A people for the most part.
Sometimes its just better to watch Guntucky, Top Shot, and Military Channel.
Sometimes its just better to watch Guntucky, Top Shot, and Military Channel.
This is a long thread and I'm not going to read it all tonight. Maybe tomorrow. I just wanted to say that Law And Order SVU is one of the most left wing shows that was ever put on the air and yes that is saying something. At times they spend 10 minutes just preaching the liberal party line. They have no one to counter their views in any way. They present one side of all arguments and which makes their programs propaganda. What they do is the very definition of propaganda.
Hollywood is not the only entity that doesn't tell the entire truth. I recently saw our president talking about fully automatic weapons being sold over the net with no background checks and I especially see them talk about the Mexican drug gangs buying machine guns from us and taking them back to Mexico where they are used in the narco-wars. They act as if you can walk into any gun shop and buy a full auto AR-15 for a small amount of money. They paint the NRA as a radical organization that apparently exists for the sole purpose of providing mass killers with their weapons of choice. I didn't join the NRA for that. How about you?
What you will never hear is how the Obama administration provided guns in large numbers for the narco gangs and how those guns have been used to kill many people. You can hear that part of the story on Fox sometimes but never do they talk about why this was done. You might get some gobbledegook about tracing guns blah blah blah. They mention that no effort was ever made to actually track the guns but they do not follow up that angle and mention the real reason those guns were sent across the border which was to make the US gun industry look like horrible villains who ignore background check laws to make sales to drug gangs. Do they not know that AR-15's are flying off the shelves to legitimate buyers? So why would a gun seller risk prison selling to illegal customers?
No one in the media tells the truth about these things. When our president actually implies that we have a problem with fully automatic weapons being sold on the streets then we have a very serious problem. Who is there to counter the claims of the left? The NRA for one. They have been doing a decent job of fighting this battle for a very long time. But now we have what Matt Drudge called the Citizen Journalist - we have the internet and it has given us a voice we never had before. Never. It's more important than the invention of the printing press.
What we shouldn't forget is the printing press caused all sorts of evils. People were burned at the stake for printing things the powers that be didn't like. For example a Bible was printed with notes in the margins that mentioned things like the verses that were supposed to give kings their divine right to rule. Only they also mentioned how those verses had been altered to suit the kings. The man who printed that Bible,William Tyndale, was burned at the stake. But the Tyndale Bible became the basis for the King James Bible in spite of what King Henry did to him. It's said that 83% of the King James Bible came from Tyndale's work. He won his war and so can we. It might take sacrifice but most good things do.
Efforts at censoring what can be said on the net have already been attempted. We really need to make sure that never happens. They will have us all trying to get a journalism license before long. They've already tried it in fact. And the established press is the worst about it. They are losing their influence and they hate it. Even sports reporters hate internet bloggers and the like. I've seen them go on rants about it for 10 minutes at a time.
The net is freedom of speech on a world wide basis. Stories that need to be heard will be heard on the net. Word of mouth takes people to sites that speak the truth.
So let's forget the main stream media. They are an anachronism now. Their time has come and gone. We are the media now. Let's continue to use our new found power to influence the world.
Hollywood is not the only entity that doesn't tell the entire truth. I recently saw our president talking about fully automatic weapons being sold over the net with no background checks and I especially see them talk about the Mexican drug gangs buying machine guns from us and taking them back to Mexico where they are used in the narco-wars. They act as if you can walk into any gun shop and buy a full auto AR-15 for a small amount of money. They paint the NRA as a radical organization that apparently exists for the sole purpose of providing mass killers with their weapons of choice. I didn't join the NRA for that. How about you?
What you will never hear is how the Obama administration provided guns in large numbers for the narco gangs and how those guns have been used to kill many people. You can hear that part of the story on Fox sometimes but never do they talk about why this was done. You might get some gobbledegook about tracing guns blah blah blah. They mention that no effort was ever made to actually track the guns but they do not follow up that angle and mention the real reason those guns were sent across the border which was to make the US gun industry look like horrible villains who ignore background check laws to make sales to drug gangs. Do they not know that AR-15's are flying off the shelves to legitimate buyers? So why would a gun seller risk prison selling to illegal customers?
No one in the media tells the truth about these things. When our president actually implies that we have a problem with fully automatic weapons being sold on the streets then we have a very serious problem. Who is there to counter the claims of the left? The NRA for one. They have been doing a decent job of fighting this battle for a very long time. But now we have what Matt Drudge called the Citizen Journalist - we have the internet and it has given us a voice we never had before. Never. It's more important than the invention of the printing press.
What we shouldn't forget is the printing press caused all sorts of evils. People were burned at the stake for printing things the powers that be didn't like. For example a Bible was printed with notes in the margins that mentioned things like the verses that were supposed to give kings their divine right to rule. Only they also mentioned how those verses had been altered to suit the kings. The man who printed that Bible,William Tyndale, was burned at the stake. But the Tyndale Bible became the basis for the King James Bible in spite of what King Henry did to him. It's said that 83% of the King James Bible came from Tyndale's work. He won his war and so can we. It might take sacrifice but most good things do.
Efforts at censoring what can be said on the net have already been attempted. We really need to make sure that never happens. They will have us all trying to get a journalism license before long. They've already tried it in fact. And the established press is the worst about it. They are losing their influence and they hate it. Even sports reporters hate internet bloggers and the like. I've seen them go on rants about it for 10 minutes at a time.
The net is freedom of speech on a world wide basis. Stories that need to be heard will be heard on the net. Word of mouth takes people to sites that speak the truth.
So let's forget the main stream media. They are an anachronism now. Their time has come and gone. We are the media now. Let's continue to use our new found power to influence the world.
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Schwing
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Not to add fuel to the fire here but how many of you are aware that Comcast has pulled all gun ads from its channels? You can air your ads with them, providing you don’t show any guns, archery equipment or anything pointy. There have been some allegations that it continues to run just about any anti-gun political ads while at the same time severely limiting the number of pro gun political ads and refusing to air some of them at all.
Luckily, I am currently getting screwed by centurylink so... no need to drop service.
Luckily, I am currently getting screwed by centurylink so... no need to drop service.
The last time I had cable or any form of pay-TV was as a child in the early 1980s.
Nowadays I mostly watch old shows on MeTV, in particular the Westerns (recorded since they're broadcast during the day) that I grew up with but haven't seen in years. It's not that I'm stuck in the past, it's just so difficult to find anything new that is worth watching (not a bad thing in itself because there are better things to do anyway).Well, there is always "Adam 12."
I especially like when shows such as "Gunsmoke" bring in an anti-gun character expressly to show them the error of their ways.
The theme is always "It's not the gun, it's the man."Well said, Cee Zee.
There is a lot of falsehood throughout the Internet as well, to be sure, but when more people have a say and people have more of a choice among sources and viewpoints, they ultimately tend to "gravitate" more toward the truth, I think, as it should be--truth has a way of stubbornly asserting itself, but it does need to be heard.CountryUgly
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I've seen more than one TV show I like do this... Also when the Mega-companies decided to drop "gun shows" like TopShot, Sons of Guns etc after SandyHook they were HAMMERED by backlash and cancellations .... Well those shows recently started a new season! If it bothers you just pick up the phone and let them know but don't let it wreck your day. Take a deep breath, step out back for some fresh air and then shoot a target off the back porch. Always makes me feel better!
pockets
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Wait a minute.....Do you all mean to say that not everything I see on TV or read on the internet is true? I learn something new every day.
I do watch TV for entertainment. But I don't watch 'Two Broke Girls' for it's information on the economics of a start-up business.
I don't care for any of the popular crime dramas. Honey Boo Boo is more entertaining than 'CSI:Wherever'
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I do watch TV for entertainment. But I don't watch 'Two Broke Girls' for it's information on the economics of a start-up business.
I don't care for any of the popular crime dramas. Honey Boo Boo is more entertaining than 'CSI:Wherever'
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