Unlicensed Concealed Carry
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If you have a public business thats your choice, CCW laws should over-ride any law preventing the carrying of a self defense tool.
If you have a public business you can't ban somone of a certain color from entertaining, neither should you be able to ban people legally carrying there fire-arms.
If you have a public business you can't ban somone of a certain color from entertaining, neither should you be able to ban people legally carrying there fire-arms.
in many places bringing a gun is does do damage... you just can't see it.
With very few expections Insurace companys clearly state that if you want us to insure you, you will post signs saying no weapons.( other then my current comp company they all had that line) So if something happens like an AD or a ND and some one is hurt... guess what you don't have insurance and your left paying that out of pocket. That sure as hell seems like a lot of damage to me.
With very few expections Insurace companys clearly state that if you want us to insure you, you will post signs saying no weapons.( other then my current comp company they all had that line) So if something happens like an AD or a ND and some one is hurt... guess what you don't have insurance and your left paying that out of pocket. That sure as hell seems like a lot of damage to me.
Ridgerunner665
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I think TAB has been out there in California too long...
I believe that if a person has a clean record (no felonies) and can buy a gun....They should be able to carry it anywhere...if somebody does not want guns on their property...I don't want to be around them anyway.
I believe that if a person has a clean record (no felonies) and can buy a gun....They should be able to carry it anywhere...if somebody does not want guns on their property...I don't want to be around them anyway.
I put undecided.
My thought is this - I believe that we have the right to carry a weapon, what I'm not sure of is whether or not we have a right to concealed carry.
Then again, we have a right to privacy, however it is not expressly written as that in the constitution, but is rather the result of a decision by the SCOTUS which found that the right to privacy is implicit rather than explicit.
Whether or not the right to privacy would hold as a rationale for concealed carry vs. just open carry I don't know.
I believe that concealed carry should be legal everywhere (at least in the US). Whether or not we have the right to it, I haven't a clue.
What I find more interesting is that some states require it as the only means of carrying, like Florida. It would seem to me that the constitution gives us the right to bear arms - ala open carry.... and then whether concealed carry is guaranteed is another question, but then to ban open-carry and only allow concealed carry seems odd legally.
My thought is this - I believe that we have the right to carry a weapon, what I'm not sure of is whether or not we have a right to concealed carry.
Then again, we have a right to privacy, however it is not expressly written as that in the constitution, but is rather the result of a decision by the SCOTUS which found that the right to privacy is implicit rather than explicit.
Whether or not the right to privacy would hold as a rationale for concealed carry vs. just open carry I don't know.
I believe that concealed carry should be legal everywhere (at least in the US). Whether or not we have the right to it, I haven't a clue.
What I find more interesting is that some states require it as the only means of carrying, like Florida. It would seem to me that the constitution gives us the right to bear arms - ala open carry.... and then whether concealed carry is guaranteed is another question, but then to ban open-carry and only allow concealed carry seems odd legally.
Kind of Blued
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Didn't anybody get a razor and some shave cream in the mail from Gillette when you turned 18?
A few weeks prior to any and every American's 18th birthday, the United States government should send said person a letter of congratulations, explaining their responsibility as a voting American. Included should be an optional form which can be filled out and sent back (postage paid). Upon verification that the citizen is not a felon, they will receive a phone call telling them that they are registered to vote and if they submitted the optional form, can go to their local Sherriff's department to have their picture taken. Said American would leave a few minutes later, no expenses paid, with their permit to carry still warm from the laminating machine.
This way seems pretty "for the people" to me. That's how the Framer's would want it done, that is, if we had to have "permission" to practice our inherent rights as American citizens.
A few weeks prior to any and every American's 18th birthday, the United States government should send said person a letter of congratulations, explaining their responsibility as a voting American. Included should be an optional form which can be filled out and sent back (postage paid). Upon verification that the citizen is not a felon, they will receive a phone call telling them that they are registered to vote and if they submitted the optional form, can go to their local Sherriff's department to have their picture taken. Said American would leave a few minutes later, no expenses paid, with their permit to carry still warm from the laminating machine.
This way seems pretty "for the people" to me. That's how the Framer's would want it done, that is, if we had to have "permission" to practice our inherent rights as American citizens.
Tom Servo
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You raise a good point, but the whole idea behind a laissez faire system is that if something does no harm, then it should not be illegal.
The phrase "bear arms" may be a bit on the vague side, but if individual liberties have to be interpreted, I'd prefer to see it done so with a broad stroke, rather than a narrow one.
There should be no restrictions on the ownership or carrying of arms as long as no harm comes of it. If I do cause harm, there are plenty of just laws to punish my actions.
mossberg
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I know I may just be a whiner, but I can never carry a gun concealed!
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