Update on boy charged for felony Zombie story

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http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/local/11086999.htm

Details of student's writings revealed

By Peter Mathews
CENTRAL KENTUCKY BUREAU

WINCHESTER - A lot of people think William Poole is being unfairly persecuted for writing zombie fiction.

That's the theory on the Internet, where the George Rogers Clark High School student's story has attracted interest worldwide. But the evidence presented yesterday in Clark District Court was quite different.

Poole, 18, was arrested last month on a charge of terroristic threatening. Authorities said he had made threats against students, teachers and police.

Poole's grandmother found the writings at their Winchester home and was worried enough to call police.

In an interview after his arrest, Poole told WLEX-TV (Channel 18) that he had simply written a fictional story about zombies taking over an unidentified high school.

Sympathizers who saw the news story on the Internet have sent dozens of e-mail messages to police, the county attorney, teachers and others. In e-mail and on Web bulletin boards, they have suggested local authorities are "idiots" and "incestuous hillbillies" who were out to take away Poole's right to free speech.

However, Poole's teachers told police they had not assigned such a story or talked to him about it -- and had they seen it, they would have been obligated to report him to authorities.

And, as it turns out, Poole's writings include no brain-eating dead folks.

What they do contain, Winchester police Detective Steven Caudill testified yesterday, is evidence that he had tried to solicit seven fellow students to join him in a military organization called No Limited Soldiers.

The writings describe a bloody shootout in "Zone 2," the designation given to Clark County.

"All the soldiers of Zone 2 started shooting," Caudill read on the witness stand. "They're dropping every one of them. After five minutes, all the people are lying on the ground dead."

The papers contain two different dates of Poole's death.

Poole has corresponded with someone in Barbourville who claimed to have acquired cash and guns in break-ins, Caudill testified.

No other arrests are pending, he said, but authorities are looking for other potential suspects listed in Poole's papers who are identified only by pseudonyms.

District Judge Brandy O. Brown ordered the documents put under seal because they contain references to juveniles. She sent the case to the grand jury and rejected a request from Poole's attorney to lower his $5,000 cash bond. He is being held in the Clark County jail.

The story has attracted attention from traditional journalists at 60 Minutes and CNN, as well as Web sources such as morons.org and horrorwatch.com.

Authorities had released little information about the nature of the threats, and many people assumed from the WLEX story that Poole had been made a victim.

"I do find it sad that they would stunt the intellectual growth of a young person that way," one Web poster wrote.

Another offered a suggested headline for a parody publication: "Kentucky Police safe from Zombies because of lack of Brains."

Caudill said he had received more than 50 e-mails and perhaps a dozen "nasty phone calls."

But after school shootings such as the one at Columbine High School in Colorado, where 13 people died, authorities must take threats seriously, he said in an interview.

"Do we as a society want the police to stop there -- that he didn't mean it?" he asked. "I'm not going to take that responsibility and have children's and police officers' blood on my hands."
 
Too bad no one has gotten hold of the story and posted it. Then we could form our own opinions.
And therein lies the rub. Folks would read said story, think for themselves and not blindly follow the line feed to them by the anointed of our society. Can't have THAT now, can we?
"Kentucky Police safe from Zombies because of lack of Brains."
But after school shootings such as the one at Columbine High School in Colorado, where 13 people died, authorities must take threats seriously, he said in an interview.
Well, the first quote does indeed seem to be the case, since 15 died at Columbine High School.
 
"A lot of people think William Poole is being unfairly persecuted for writing zombie fiction.
...But the evidence presented yesterday in Clark District Court was quite different.
Poole, 18, was arrested last month on a charge of terroristic threatening. Authorities said he had made threats against students, teachers and police."

When I was in grade 4 our class went on a field trip to the newspaper building. We were taught then that most people only read the first few lines of any story. I'm pretty sure most journalists know it too, and they can influence the opinion of anyone who starts reading an article with the first few lines, whether the reader finishes it or not.

I read he first few lines and thought - oh shat everyone here was wrong, the kid had detailed plans and a schedule and was about to do somethign! Then I read the rest, and there's no evidence of that. In fact I don't see why the kid has been arrested at all?

Do you know that the murder victims on the show Law and Order uses names from the producer's yearbook?

And what happened to the good old days when it was kids informing on their parents? Any good fascist knows you go for the kids, they have more upside potential, and unlike a snoopy grandparent they can't just be shipped away
 
"Interesting how people always forget the 2 shooters there when mentioning the death toll."

I do it on purpose. IOW, no-count losers don't count.

JT
 
a specific threat to a specific individual(s) detailing a specific method or time frame is actionable. how fiction plays into that is another issue.
 
Oh...so we're not allowed to write fiction unless it's a required assignment?
I'm still not convinced.
So the area is Zone 2? What proof do they have that that's his county?
I'm still not convinced, though I'm leaning towards him being wrongfully accused more and more.
These reports just don't make sense.
 
Even if he wrote a "school takeover" story the only reason this is a threat is that no one in the school would be able to stop him, if he made it real, because they are all unarmed.

If people routinely carried guns for protection this "story" as written would not be considered a threat at all.

It probably would have been written so that the protaganists had tanks and arty and helicopters and such and would anyone seriously believe that he could get ahold of such things to bring his story to life?
 
"All the soldiers of Zone 2 started shooting," Caudill read on the witness stand. "They're dropping every one of them. After five minutes, all the people are lying on the ground dead."

Lousy writing, as writing, but I don't see where anybody is actually threatened. There's no ID other than allegations about Zone 2. There's no "I'm gonna..." or "We're gonna..." or anything indicating potential action against somebody.

:barf:

As usual, there is nowhere near enough info to even HAVE an opinion, one way or the other...

Art
 
Beginning novelists almost always write about familiar things, locations, and people. The writing is hard enough without having to develop a new background.
 
Poole has corresponded with someone in Barbourville who claimed to have acquired cash and guns in break-ins, Caudill testified.

But, what about this little tidbit?
If true, this would mean things were possibly already going beyond a fictional story.
If so, I'm gonna have to go with the cops on this one until things are straightened out in court.
After the SHTF, it's too late to go back and say "well, we shoulda played it a little safer".
It makes me sick to see the knee jerk reaction of schools and such these days. But if this guy was at a point of recruiting someone with weapons, he should be right where he is.
 
The real question is if he wrote a fictional story, or if he was actively recruiting people to go on a murder spree.

We don't have anough information to make an educated guess about which is true.

The kid says he just wrote a story.

The police say there is evidence that he was planning on carrying out an attack.

The first news reports were all based on what the kid had to say.

The kids grandparents and the police believe there's considerabley more to this than an active immagination and creative litteracy skills.

I guess it's possible that the grandparents, the police, and the prosecutor are all overreacting. However, it sounds like there's enough evidence that they really do have to investigate throughly.
 
And here we have hit the nail on the head, and we see the problem at it's most pure point. Here, you have a kid who may or may not be a threat to the school population. As an LEO or prosecutor, you may have this writing (whatever it truly says) and some indications that he may have had access to weapons, and/or may have been trying to get a group together.

Overreact and you are a Nazi, and will heard complaints from people about the kid's rights, the First Amendment, and such. Underreact, and you might end up with Columbine, Part II on your hands, trying to explain to Katie Couric why you did nothing despite the writings, and the other information.

A no win situation for everyone involved.
 
SEE CAS700850 post #19.

He just defined the price of freedom. Ben Franklin couldn't have done it better - oh wait - yes he did. But just barely.

Freedom or safety - the two aren't completely incompatible I guess but are pretty close.

The problem these days in contrast to when the US was formed is that now the sheeple - who value safety above all - out number by a sizable margin those who want freedom and believe in personal responsibility. Too bad for us - we do afterall live in a majority rule society.
 
Actually, you do what we've always done, and what they're doing here: you send the case to the Grand Jury and you let twelve good men and true decide if there's enough evidence to take the case to trial.

Let's see what the Grand Jury has to say on the matter, hmm?

LawDog
 
When I was in high school (a great many years ago), we sometimes wrote things even if there wasn't an assignment. I'm not in school any longer, and I still write short stories, poems, and (like half the population of the U.S.) I am sporadically at work on my rendition of THE GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL. Haven't been chanrged with any crimes yet, but my grandparents are deceased so they can't rat me out.

I'm confused about the "threatening" charge, though. Forget "terroristic" threatening -- whatever that is -- as a grammarian and linguist (not not a lawyer) I have always been under the assumption that one person cannot "threaten" anyone or anything in a vacuum. I threat must be expressed, and delivered. Who, exactly, did this kid threaten? Ih he didn't make phone calls, send letters or e-mails, or engage in some form of COMMUNICATION, I cannot see that any threat has been made, irrespective of whatever he wrote.
 
Felony Zombie

I wonder if the illustrious Morons that they call State Police have ever read the "William Johnstone Ashes Series?" In some of these books Ben Raines and his Rebels waste Outlaws, Creepies, Mutants, Bikers, Scxumbags, and etc. yet I don't see or didn't see anyone clamoring to charge Johnstone with a felony. I have to agree with an earlier post, I thought that morons.org was for CNN and CBS. This is a Firrst amendment issue ans should be treated as such. Just my $.02 worth. :cuss:
 
I don't get it. HE did not communicate the threat. He should be able to write whatever he wants.
 
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