chaim
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Some of you participated in or read this thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=144546
Well, here is an update of sorts-
I have spoken to the friend I usually stay with, and while he doesn't like it, he will "allow" me to take one of my handguns with me when I stay with him for the sabbath.
I won't say my decision about carry. Carry in MD is illegal and if I would carry I wouldn't announce online that I'm breaking the law. If I'm not carrying I don't want the chorus of "better judged by 12 than carried by 6" or "move" posts I'll get. I would say, I wish carry was possible here and I wouldn't need to make the choice.
Things have definately gotten worse for the Jewish community in Upper Park Heights/Greenspring in Baltimore.
In the past when there were "problems" a few people would talk about it, but most would ignore the situation (especially in Greenspring which is usually a pretty safe part of the community). Well, everyone is talking about it. Everywhere I went over this past holiday (Succos) everyone was talking about it. At a rabbi's dinner table we were talking about it. At a table in Greenspring people were talking about it. Synagogues are posting warnings. It is getting ugly, pretty much everyone knows someone now who has been a victim.
Being robbed at gunpoint is now a mild situation. When people are being robbed at gunpoint it is usually on our holidays or the sabbath when we don't carry money and the criminals are now getting frustrated and beating people until they have to go to the hospital.
There has been a rash of home robberies and outright home invasions of occupied homes.
There have been beatings for being Jewish. One guy was surrounded by a crowd he thinks was at least 20-25 and was beaten by at least 5 of them. He ended up in a hospital and now needs over $3500 in dental work (he's luckly to not have brain damage or to have survived at all). This was just 2 weeks ago, and at a location I am often near. One old woman was actually attacked in broad daylight in the parking lot of the kosher supermarket and knocked unconcious.
The way things are escalating quickly it is only a matter of time before people are killed.
While robbery has been part of it, it is also clear we are being targeted as Jews. Things the attackers are saying suggests this, as well as the fact that our neighbors don't seem to be experiencing the same problems and money isn't always being taken.
From the looks of it, I'm guessing gang activity or gang initiation, but we can't completely ignore the large "Nation of Islam" presence in nearby neighborhoods so it may be outright hate activity. Strangely (or maybe not) this doesn't seem to make the newspapers :banghead:
Anyway, with all that's going on, I'd be bringing a gun with me even if the friend I stay with didn't want me to (and I do believe in honoring the wishes of the person who is providing you hospitality). I also think that for most people it may be getting close to where the danger of not carrying is greater than the danger of being caught carrying illegally. I do worry greatly, less for my own safety (whether I carry or not, my mindset is self-defense minded so situational awareness is high), but more for my friends who live there and many of whom have young families. I don't know how and when it will end, though at least one member of the "ring" has been arrested to date (news of that is on the bulletin boards of nearly every neighborhood synagogue).
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=144546
Well, here is an update of sorts-
I have spoken to the friend I usually stay with, and while he doesn't like it, he will "allow" me to take one of my handguns with me when I stay with him for the sabbath.
I won't say my decision about carry. Carry in MD is illegal and if I would carry I wouldn't announce online that I'm breaking the law. If I'm not carrying I don't want the chorus of "better judged by 12 than carried by 6" or "move" posts I'll get. I would say, I wish carry was possible here and I wouldn't need to make the choice.
Things have definately gotten worse for the Jewish community in Upper Park Heights/Greenspring in Baltimore.
In the past when there were "problems" a few people would talk about it, but most would ignore the situation (especially in Greenspring which is usually a pretty safe part of the community). Well, everyone is talking about it. Everywhere I went over this past holiday (Succos) everyone was talking about it. At a rabbi's dinner table we were talking about it. At a table in Greenspring people were talking about it. Synagogues are posting warnings. It is getting ugly, pretty much everyone knows someone now who has been a victim.
Being robbed at gunpoint is now a mild situation. When people are being robbed at gunpoint it is usually on our holidays or the sabbath when we don't carry money and the criminals are now getting frustrated and beating people until they have to go to the hospital.
There has been a rash of home robberies and outright home invasions of occupied homes.
There have been beatings for being Jewish. One guy was surrounded by a crowd he thinks was at least 20-25 and was beaten by at least 5 of them. He ended up in a hospital and now needs over $3500 in dental work (he's luckly to not have brain damage or to have survived at all). This was just 2 weeks ago, and at a location I am often near. One old woman was actually attacked in broad daylight in the parking lot of the kosher supermarket and knocked unconcious.
The way things are escalating quickly it is only a matter of time before people are killed.
While robbery has been part of it, it is also clear we are being targeted as Jews. Things the attackers are saying suggests this, as well as the fact that our neighbors don't seem to be experiencing the same problems and money isn't always being taken.
From the looks of it, I'm guessing gang activity or gang initiation, but we can't completely ignore the large "Nation of Islam" presence in nearby neighborhoods so it may be outright hate activity. Strangely (or maybe not) this doesn't seem to make the newspapers :banghead:
Anyway, with all that's going on, I'd be bringing a gun with me even if the friend I stay with didn't want me to (and I do believe in honoring the wishes of the person who is providing you hospitality). I also think that for most people it may be getting close to where the danger of not carrying is greater than the danger of being caught carrying illegally. I do worry greatly, less for my own safety (whether I carry or not, my mindset is self-defense minded so situational awareness is high), but more for my friends who live there and many of whom have young families. I don't know how and when it will end, though at least one member of the "ring" has been arrested to date (news of that is on the bulletin boards of nearly every neighborhood synagogue).