What do you carry when you can't carry?

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I posted this in handguns, because I'm hoping to get the opinion of those that regularly choose to carry a handgun - what's the next best thing when carry is not an option? :confused:

Ohio has a weak (but improving) carry law. I carry 100% of the time I'm allowed, but I also follow the law 100% of the time regarding when I can't :scrutiny:, but after researching what would happen if I were busted in such a place (3rd deg. felony, 1-5yrs, $10k fine, and I'd likely be disbarred and lose my job), I've vowed to do even better. :uhoh:

I swear if anyone says "I'd rather be judged by 12..." I will scream! :cuss: :banghead: :rolleyes:

My pre-CCW SD gear included OC spray, and a mini-maglite flashlight. I'm thinking of updating my OC spray (I've got foxlabs spray that's probably expired :(), but I'm also considering a Taser - as a side note, my CCW-averse spouse said she would carry a Taser.

Whaddya all think - his and hers Tasers for father's day? Or is new OC spray more effective (and it's certainly cheaper)? Any other ideas? - no knives please - long story
 
I take my shillelagh and pretend it's a cane
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In my 20s, I trained a fair amoung using a cane as a weapon. Never really went with one though (too young for a cane, and a bad actor)... Now that I'm considerably older and more decrepit, the cane (unfortunately) wouldn't look that out of place... :neener:

I don't know why, I hadn't thought about getting that back out and practicing up a bit - this post was worth making just to get that reminder!

Thanks!
 
Im like vern, IM old enough and have enough imfirmities that kick up from time to time that a a cane is not unusual. you rule out knives, OK, I like the pepper spray idea, have no knowledge of tasers so cant help there, also carry my keys on a chain , a dog collar type for big dogs, and always wear a thick belt that back in the day we would wrap around our wrist and swing like chucks, sorry if this not much help but I did enjoy rambling!
 
I carry a TDI knife by KA-BAR and a Surfire Exectutive Defender flashlight (has scalops on both end that stick out and can be used defensivley). Usually I carry these even when carrying a G23, but most definatley will have them should I not be legal to CCW.

If it's a place where it's really strict (I'm in Ohio also) I just go with the flashlight. I hate doing that, but if pressed I could explain away the flashlight, the TDI knife would be hard to explain.

Sometimes I'll carry a folding pocket knife with a decent sized blade in place of the TDI if I think someone would freak out if they see the TDI.
 
Attitude.

MORE attitude.
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Yup. And carry that when you ARE carrying a firearm too. Don't look like a victim.

take my shillelagh and pretend it's a cane
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You can get a really good, solid, do-some-damage cane from a farm supply place. They're for livestock, and I've been told that they're a great alternative to expensive self-defense canes.

Springmom
 
For world wide travel in all types of security areas any good 50 lumen or better compact light with a tailcap switch, I carry a Surefire L2 lumamax (100 lumens), and a "substantial" pen with good gripping surfaces. I prefer the LED type lights for their run time and dependability but any good 6" or less light should do.

No sharp scalloped edges on the light, its for blinding or ID a threat. Using it as kuboton is secondary and for that it works fine as is.

I think that adding the "tactical teeth" to a flashlight or buying $ 80 "tactical" pens increases the chances of having your $$$ toy confiscated by TSA, Court Officers etc. A normal aluminum, steel or even a Bic pen can do amazing damage when deployed properly. This is a combo you can carry everywhere and use in the tightest quarters.

For Slightly longer reach you can carry an 18 inch loop of paracord in your pocket. In less than 1 second you can loop it through your heavy duty key ring full of keys for a fairly decent impact weapon. CAUTION: in some jurisdictions this is considered a "slung-shot" and is illegal in the same category as a blackjack or sap, so don't carry it assembled.
 
Get a kubotan keychain and study a little on how to use it.

My wife is considering a job across the river in the free-fire zone know as IL and it appears virtually nothing is allowed; tasers, stunguns, etc. She has borderline asthma so I'm not considering pepper spray since it might incapacitate her more than the BG. I'm getting her a kubotan since it might be about the only thing she can get away with, while her 9mm sits at home.
 
I walk like I'm going somewhere (attentive and heads up confident)...and carry a LOT of hand-to-hand training, and a high-end Leatherman with a quick flick blade. Carrying a "non-weapon" weapon can help in court after you hurt a BG.
 
Only place I might go and not be able to carry is on a plane and then there isn't much you can do except give them BGs a really dirty look.

Alot of things can be used as a weapon should the need arise. Even a pencil can be shoved in the eye of a bad guy if the chance arises. HMMMM maybe those geeks with their pencil holders in their pockets knew something.

Guns are not the only weapons in the world, what did they use before guns came along.

jj
 
Learn how to use a knife. It also doesn't hurt to know how to use your hands and feet.
 
Depends on the situation. I have several years of matial arts training and it helps. I usually carry a small knife (locking blade). I plan on looking into a taser and pepper spray for me and my wife.

I'm just like the OP - I try to obey the law 100% of the time! I won't carry where I'm not supposed to carry - that's just the way I am. JFYI - I don't even like to break the speed limit. :neener:
 
Learn how to use a knife. It also doesn't hurt to know how to use your hands and feet.
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I trained pretty diligently from about 1988-2004 - herniated disc from a throw, and torn shoulder cartilage from boxing have slowed me down considerably, in addition to plain old age.

I'm not worried about holding my own in a "bar fight" (one because I could, and another because I would never get INTO a bar fight).

I'm worried about when the BG has sized me up and KNOWS he (and his friends?) have the advantage. You know, the kind of situation where you would draw your gun!

We trained quite a bit with a knife. I just don't like using a knife - didn't say I don't know how...

I should have made my question simpler - anyone here use a Taser / stun gun in these situations? I'm as confident as I can be with OC spray and a flashlight, just looking to see if there was something better...

That's the one negative about CCW, I never felt underarmed before CCW, now if I can't carry, I can't help but feel a little more vulnerable...

Thanks to all!
 
Jim Wagner Reality Based blade by Boker! designed specifically to penetrate the thickest bone in the human body. this knife gives me the willies more than the thought of a gun pointed at me. I have used OC spray and it affected me nearly as much as the intended target! Breathing trouble and nausea more than burning and tears! The Taser route seems like it would be a good time though. I LOVE watching the training Vids of taser shots!
 
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