What do you carry when you can't carry?

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Well, it's like this

Since concealed carry should never be allowed, I carry photos of Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama, Rod Blagoevich (Illinois Governor awaiting indictment) and Mayor Daley so show any would be attackers/robbers that I am on their side and understand their plight and how bad it feels to be poor and that they should understand that I would never ever carry an evil gun that might violate their rights to attack/rob me if I was to use it on them. Then I ask them to wait while I find a phone to call the police.




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Okay, the truth.

I thought I would be the only one to say a kubaton key ring, but somebody beat me to it, here. I also have a small knife where ever I go, from 1 inch to 4 inches in blade length. :)

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Same as I'd normally carry....my Swiss Army knife.

Been thinking about replacing my OC...every time I get some I find a female friend that doesn't have any and give it away.
 
Generally I find that when I can't carry I can't carry a knife or alternate tool either. So it's a very bright surefire and my sturdy set of keys. Ever had a surefire shined in your eyes at close range at night? It's wild, man. Good for 3 or 4 seconds play room.
 
Surefire - sounds cool!

Ever had a surefire shined in your eyes at close range at night? It's wild, man. Good for 3 or 4 seconds play room.
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I've always just carried a trusty 2 AA cell MagLight (cheap and tough - I've probably got 5 of them kicking around here). I've always just trained/planned to use it as a yawara as I learned in arnis. Blinding someone sounds infinitely easier... :D I'm no tough guy, but if the BG can't see, I like my chances! :neener:

Will have to re-think the flashlight - thanks for the great tip!


(heavy solid metal pen $5 at wallyworld) and a 3.5" folding knife. Would either be at all useful? Probably not...but probably not is a lot better than completely unarmed...
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I was taught to use ANYTHING except the frail human hand - I think the pen is a great idea, and you can take it places that even my little MagLight might cause problems.
 
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Whaddya all think - his and hers Tasers for father's day? Or is new OC spray more effective (and it's certainly cheaper)? Any other ideas? - no knives please - long story
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Tasers and stun guns are illegal in MANY areas of the country now. Are you sure tasers are legal where you're at?

Pepper foam and pepper gel are both more effective than pepper spray. Buy the foam or gel, and be sure to shake the cannister well before leaving the house. Buy new cannisters and throw out the old ones every two years.

Also, one of the kubotan keychains that has two metal prongs on the side, and pointed on one end.
 
Are you sure tasers are legal where you're at?
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Honestly, not a clue... ;) I've yet to find anyone that recommends them over a good OC - be it spray, foam, gel, so it's doubtful I'll spring for one...

Thanks for the heads up though, and I'll certainly check into it before I would buy...

[EDIT] I need to go to bed, but I did look real quick, and at least according to Taser, they are legal in Ohio. http://www.taser.org/laws.html The cited statute says

"Deadly weapon" means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon.
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Interesting - I know they've had accidental deaths with Tasers, but is it "capable of inflicting death"?? I think it would be ok, whether you were caught with it undeployed, or deployed it in a legitimate SD manner...
 
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Anything is capable of inflicting death including a cotton ball. There's a pretty nice gray area in that law. I imagine that if the prosecutor was out for your bacon he could probably make a pretty convincing case as to a tazer being a deadly weapon. You'd probably be best off sending a letter to the state AG and seeing what kind of response you get back.
 
i eat a lot of onions and garlic in a secret combo
with lots of BBQ meat.
My weapon has two barrels.
One in open sight mounted on top.
And a concealed barrel on the lower behind,
that delivers a very heavy round.

;)
 
You'd probably be best off sending a letter to the state AG and seeing what kind of response you get back.
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Kind of bad timing for that! Our Attorney General was just forced out of office amid huge scandals of sexual harassment and improper spending. :eek:

The governor (a very pro-gun Democrat, as a side note) just appointed the dean of Ohio State University's law school as interim AG until a successor can be elected in a special election this fall. :uhoh:

Obviously that gray area is on purpose... I remember researching the issue a long time ago, and getting NOWHERE. IIRC, it's applied with fairly decent common sense if you are just found with an object that has an alternative explanation - say a baseball bat and glove in your car. :scrutiny:

However, if you assault someone with that same bat, it can be assault with a deadly weapon, as it is "capable of inflicting death" and "used as a weapon."

If used as a weapon, but in self defense, the prosecutor has all the discretion in the world to charge you with a big crime, a little crime, or no crime at all. That's why we (gulp) have a jury of our peers... I hope there are some THR peers on my jury should I ever be there for anything like that! :cool:

I have access to LexisNexis - If I have time later I'll see if I can find any cases that mention "Taser" or "stun gun" and see what they say. A quick search yields 200 cases, but most of them are excessive force claims against police. I'll try to refine the search later... :banghead:
 
When I cannot even carry a ceramic knife, I always have a medium thick magazine. Roll one of these up real tight and you have a great self defense club. You can break bones with one this way. It also helps to get the LE off your back if you tell them you beat the BG with a magazine.
 
Just got back from a few days in northern Cali, and I had my Surefire Aviator with me at all times. I was going to bring a Spyderco Native, but opted to leave it at home and just carry the Surefire. Otherwise, those two are the combo.
 
Caution on the pepper spray - there's a reason they make cops get pepper sprayed before they carry it.

Some people are rather immune to it, most people have the intended effect, and some people take especially poorly to it.

Good to know what category you're in. Backspray is probable in the personal defense type of encounter. Yes, even with the streaming jet kind. They just keep running at you, and now they're covered with oily pepper spray stuff...
 
Benchmade or Kershaw Leek pocket knife is always with me. I do sometimes carry a NAA Mini .22mag when I can't carry a gun too.
 
There's no CCW for regular people in my state. I've got a stock cane and some walking sticks. Usually a pen or two, a book, then whatever is within reach. I don't pocket carry my Surefires at present. I carry a pocket knife, but I wouldn't grab that first; I'm not a trained knife fighter.

I suppose that I could always walk up to the bad guys and ask them for money...
 
When I can't carry a gun I carry a Kel-tec P3AT and I always carry a knife as well. I've also got a strong martial arts/boxing/self defense background as well.
 
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