What do you carry when you can't carry?

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Wow, Surefire lights have gotten a great run on this thread.

I did a little research and those buggers are expensive! I guess the answer is obvious since so many have them, but are they really worth the extra $$$?

My Mag is like $6, and would seem as a defensive blunt force weapon, would be equal to the Surefire.

So, it must be the super-bright light that makes them superior? Do you practice/train to actually use that - flash the light in their eyes then smash 'em?

Sincerely curious here - not trying to disparage those that have them - I think I'm in the minority NOT having one.

I doubt I'll go that route - with my pathetic, middle-aged, three-kid-having life, I don't think I've walked anywhere in the dark in a long time - at least not in a situation where I didn't have a gun... ;) My non-gun times seem to be going to the elementary school, going to lunch in restaurants (no carry zones in Ohio - dumb!), etc. Oh, yeah, and every day at work! :( If I were back in my bar days, I can see where temporary blinding a BG would be a terrific advantage!
 
Cop-size (4oz) OC spray, Kershaw folder, mini-Maglite, honkin' big ring of keys on a 'biner. If I'm feeling paranoid, add an oak cane with a brass eagle head. Can you say "Bec-de-Corbin", boys and girls? I knew you could.
 
My mini .22 NAA with the singular exception of when I know I'm going to be wanded or where its utterly impossible ie: air travel............other than that to the devil with signage and petty regulations..........I'd prefer to have the means to keep on breathin'!
 
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Surefire E2D and a Gerber EVO.
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I've never seen that flavor of Gerber before. However it has been a while since my kid had baby food. Do you open the jar and fling the food at the person, or do you just chuck the jar as hard as you can at their heads, like Crocodile Dundee did with that can of soup at the purse snatcher?

The Doc is curious now. :cool:

PS: :rolleyes:
 
Hah, I dont go to high tech with it. A roll of quarters.
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:D

Heh...

A large D shaped carabiner makes a nasty set of aluminum knuckles, and doesn't draw a lot of attention.
 
For me, since concealed carry in my state is a huge no-no, I find my taser, oc & knife viable options
 
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For me, since concealed carry in my state is a huge no-no, I find my taser, oc & knife viable options
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Even in many states where it's legal for civilians to possess tasers, it's still illegal for them to carry tasers concealed.

So those interested in purchasing a taser should contact their state attorney general's office and county sheriff's office in writing, and find out the specific applicable laws in their area.
 
I live in Ohio and recently purchased am African Walking Stick from Cold Steel. 37" long and made of Tupperware. Nice stick, large knob on end and indestructible, except if you are in a high temperature fire!
 
Wow, Surefire lights have gotten a great run on this thread.

I did a little research and those buggers are expensive! I guess the answer is obvious since so many have them, but are they really worth the extra $$$?
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True, my E2D was about $110. It was expensive but I have not found any product that was comparable. The thing has wicked teeth on the end that give me added confidence in it should I ever have to use it in a defensive mode. And, the thing is very bright. Internet illustrations and testing at the brightly lit store cannot fully convey how deep and penetrating that tiny light is in the dark woods. It easily outshines a full size mag light.
 
I always have a folding knife in my pocket. For 5-6 yrs it was a Spyder Co Endura II until I broke it (well it won't stay locked open anymore) prying on something (I think) when I was deployed over to the desert.

Last 2 yrs or so, I have carried a Kershaw (Ken Onion) folder.

I always have a 3D cell Mag light on the floor board, beside the seat in my Jeep.

I'd hate to think I had to defend myself with either, but if my pistol isn't acessable for what ever reason, I recon BG is just gonna have to get cut or smashed.
Will
 
Oh, I knew

I'm not sure what you're driving at.
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I was just being a little goofy. I knew he meant Gerber knives.

That's part of the problem of being in Illinois. So much of what is going on in the rest of the country does not apply here. We had a case over near Peoria iirc where a guy with a assisted opening knife was charged with having a switchblade knife. It finally got dismissed. He got the dang thing at the local Wal-Mart and the prosecutor was going to have a problem proving that one button operated the knife.

Still, it illustrates that even carrying a knife is frought with problems here in Illinois, where we honest people are not trusted by the Governor, State Police and Mayor of Chicago to be careful with concealed guns. :fire:

I have nothing else to offer from experience but some levity and comedy from time to time outside from when I was a cop and allowed to carry. Now that I am just a lawyer and not a cop (i.e. much more education and licensing) I am not trusted enough by my state to have concealed carry. :fire:

The Doc is out and depressed now. :(
 
Yes, Doc, the Gerber baby food company was founded in 1928, but the Gerber company that makes knives like this,
well, it's true that it wasn't founded until 1939.

Even so, several people have already heard of them. One of their knives is the Gerber EVO.

I'm not sure what you're driving at.

Edited to add: I suppose that it's a nuanced suggestion that you don't like the brand.
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I think he was just making a joke.

I carry a small can of pepper spray. I'm supprised that so many people don't carry it or don't like it. I've test sprayed the stuff and just being around the spray (it wasn't even back spray) stung my sinuses quite a bit. It was like eating a bunch of wasabi. I imagine being sprayed in the face would drop me real quick.

I'm also supprised at the amount of people with those Surefire flashlights. I never would have thought of shinning a bright light at an attackers face. Maybe I should start a new thread on it but has anybody excaped from an attacker by blinding them with their flashlight? Also, where did you get this idea?

I have an LED maglight but I'm not too fond of it. It's because when the batteries die it's without warning. The light doesn't fade slowly, it just cuts out. Is it like that with the Surefires?
 
I have an LED maglight but I'm not too fond of it. It's because when the batteries die it's without warning. The light doesn't fade slowly, it just cuts out. Is it like that with the Surefires?
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With the Surefire incandescent line, yes. A slight taper, then no light. With the LED, not so much. It slowly tapers but still emits usable light, and does so for a long time after the batteries stop emitting enough juice to power an incandescent bulb.

The LED from Surefire is one of the coolest flashlights to come along in a while. Once you get used to the light output, I think it's hard to beat.
 
DrLaw said:
Oh, I knew
Yours truly said:
I'm not sure what you're driving at.
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I was just being a little goofy. I knew he meant Gerber knives.
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I was just being more than a little dense, and I misunderstood your comment. Sorry that I was a dork. :eek:
 
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Just Jim said:
Only place I might go and not be able to carry is on a plane and then there isn't much you can do except give them BGs a really dirty look.
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You, my friend, need to pay more attention to the seatbelts.
 
In the car: long handled 3/8 Craftsman ratchet with a sparkplug socket locked on. Out of the car: hickory walking stick.
 
long handled 3/8 Craftsman ratchet with a sparkplug socket locked on
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Nice! I had to fly one-way to New Jersey to pick up some cats and drive them home (don't ask!). Due to flying, I no weapon.

When I got there and got my rental, I popped in the nearest Sears and bought a pry-bar - less than a crow bar, but still pretty stout. I've used it several times, so it's not like I bought it JUST for self defense, but the timing of the purchase was certainly driven by that cause...
 
A good weapon for in the car is a 36" thermoplastic riot baton, equipped with a thong for a secure grip. Completely legal, virtually impossible to break, and can deliver devastating strikes to various parts of the body. The thong wrapped around your hand makes it very difficult for someone to take it away from you.

A standard 24" police baton with thong will also work quite well, if the 36" riot baton is a little too long for your preference.

Another good weapon for in the car is a Mag-Lite flashlight (4 D-cell size). Virtually impossible to break, and heavy enough to deliver crushing blows to the head etc.
 
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