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What do you consider "A lot of rounds"

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Kingofthehill, Sep 19, 2010.

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  1. Kingofthehill

    Kingofthehill Member

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    I get this email today about a gun i am selling (Didn't happen here).

    The Pistol in question is a Springfield XD-45. It has 1,320 exactly down the pipe (I keep notes and store on an excel spreadsheet).

    So, what is a lot to you? IMO 500 is the bare minimum i would even start to trust the pistol with my life on. 1,000 rds is where i feel most triggers show their true colors.

    With modern pistols going tens of thousands of rounds before real wear and tare, who is telling these people 1k is a lot?

    M9
    M&P
    HK 45
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    There is one from a Glock Factory tour showing a glock 17 with some crazy number but i can't find it right now.

    How many did the orginal John M Browning 1911 go through?
     
  2. Hanzo581

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    He is just trying to find any reason he can to make you come down on the price. 1,320 rounds is nothing.
     
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    I've only ever thought "wow, you've got a lot of rounds through that gun" when I meet somebody with a round count in the six figures.

    I've found that "Do you think 1000 rounds is a lot of ammo?" is a pretty good litmus test of whether someone is a serious shooter or not.
     
  5. Kingofthehill

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    im hoping thats the case. I see people try and give reviews on guns and saying how great they are and "Not a single problem in 150rds".... geesh, i probably shoot 300 a week minimum of some sort of firearm.
     
  6. bds

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    1000+ is often a range session for many shooters. :D
     
  7. DRYHUMOR

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    Pistol may be close to being broke in, maybe. :D

    It seems most people buying (or looking) seem to want clean and pristene. I figure around 1000 rds, the minor issues have been cleared up. After that, it's pretty much good to go.

    Can't blame the guy for trying though....
     
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    Sounds like used car dealer-or a gun shop owner!
     
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    1320 means it is just getting broken in good. That pistol should be good for a long time to come.
     
  10. gwnorth

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    I had a few similar PMs about an all stainless 1911 I was selling with about 2000 rounds through it. One was just hoping to get his lowball offer accepted and another was a novice shooter who was genuinely just asking. When I told him that the round count was nothing in a gun that should easily have a service life of (who knows) 50k-100k rounds (?) he bought it and at my asking price.
     
  11. Dobe

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    1,300 rounds means it's time to clean it.
     
  12. Skylerbone

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    Your Majesty may wish to point him in the direction of Jerry Miculek of team S&W who fires 80,000+ rounds per year. Unless they're photoshopping he still has all 10 fingers and I doubt he goes through 80 handguns a year.
     
  13. gglass

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    I shot just over 3,200 rounds this past week alone... I don't think my pistols are worn out from it.
     
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    To answer the OP, now, 1320 rounds is nothing. Just a drop in the bucket. I have a Glock 17 with ~10,000 rounds and it still looks and shoots great. Well, except for one trip back to Glock because it broke. The infamous E-series "recall-that-wasn't-really-a-recall" frame rail problem.

    But in deference to the inquiry, think about this: To most gun owners, a brick of 500 .22LR ammo is A LOT of ammo. They keep at most 2-3 50 round boxes on hand for a handgun. How many people have ever taken a person shooting who buys ammo right before the range trip instead of by the case in advance? Just by the fact that we are posting on here on this forum, we are on the advanced edge of the usage curve of "average" gun owners.

    I mean, really, there is a reason primers can be purchased by the 5k flat, powder comes in 4-8 pound containers, and... ;)

    (Of course, I have an AR-15 match rifle with about 9000 rounds through it, on it's second barrel. It's getting rebarreled this winter for the next 3000-4000 rounds of use! :cool: )
     
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    I change a few springs in certain types of guns every 1000. But 1000 is hardly much at all.

    10,000 is an impressive #.
     
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    LMAO - I guess I should just throw away ALL of my 59XX's along with ALL of my .22LR's. Like you'd said - I wouldn't start trusting a semi auto until it had 500 rounds through it. Hell, even a lowly Hi-Point doesn't break-in until a few hundred rounds have gone through it.

     
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    For some high end competitive shooters 1300 rounds is about a day and a half of practice.
     
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    Every answer will be relative to the shooter's interest/dedication/money to shooting and his pocketbook.
     
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    as far as affecting the value? 1,320 rounds is nothing at all. ive done that in a day with some of my .22s
     
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    Tell him that since it's ONLY 1320 rounds, you're raising the price. Maybe he'll get the message.
     
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    over 10,000
     
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    My CZ75B was juuust getting broken in at about 1300rds. My CZ has somewhere around 20-25000 rds and shoots waay better than NIB.

    You might respond that normally you would charge for breaking in and ops-checking a new gun--let's see, 10 cents/round plus gas to the range and range fees, oh yeh, cleaning supplies too.
     
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    If I'm buying a used pistol I prefer under 500 rounds fired, but rounds aren't as important as care and maintenance. I prefer a well cared for pistol with 1000 rounds to a neglected beater with 100 rounds.
     
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    i currently have over 17,500rds through my xd service model .40 and that is no where near (to me) alot of rounds. especially in something as reliable and long lasting as a glock 19,17, m&p's and the xd series. even if you bought one of the above with that many rounds through it, if you ever had a problem the company would take care of you. glock and sa i know for sure from first hand.
     
  25. vikinggirl

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    "a lot of rounds" is different depending on if you are just at the range, or stopping a bad guy. (zombies might take a few more!)

    :)
     
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