What's the deal with 7.62x39 import bans?

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A couple months ago the rumor was that Russian 7.62x39 ammo was getting banned from being imported due to sanctions and so far nothing has happened. Because I have had the Ruger American in 7.62x39 on my tax return list, it got me to thinking: if the ammo was banned and prices when up, would it be worth having to reload for the cartridge when I could be reloading the more powerful .308 instead?

So, what's the deal with this ammo? Is it getting banned or not? If yes, what's going to happen? If not, during panic buying, how long does the steel case 7.62x39 last?
 
Not sure about the sanction status, but I will say that if you look closely at steel ammo manufacturer location on the boxes, there are plenty other sources than Russia.

Steel x39 should still be ok for a while
 
There’s not that big a difference in price between Wolf Russian steel, about $4 a box, and Wolf Gold Taiwanese brass reloadable ammo at $6 a box.
 
There was a rumor that Tula was being bought out by a company that was already under sanctions, but it never happened. Even if it did, there is Barnaul and Vympel, which are the brands I buy anyways. Russian ammo is not being banned.
 
With the current political climate, you might want to stock up now while it is still available and inexpensive, JIC.
 
No, it isn't; but what makes you think with their totalitarian agenda that they won't move to ban ALL imports of ammo, or at least ammo for semi rifles? Or that they won't extend that to internet sales?
 
George P said:
With the current political climate, you might want to stock up now while it is still available and inexpensive, JIC.
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I'm not into buying a rifle that I'll also have to buy a 1000 rds of ammo for immediately because of the climate right now. If 7.62x39 prices are going up, I'm not into buying a 7.62x39 rifle because I think it's a waste of time to reload for compared to .308.
 
fireman 9731 said:
A lot of steel cased ammo is made in Ukraine.
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That would be the Barnaul factory. They make wolf, Sellier and Bellot, brown bear and so on. Even if more sanctions were laid in Russia I doubt Ukraine will fall under them. The only reason Molot did was because they were purchased by Kalashnikov Concern. Also, Century would just import more Romanian ammo if it became an issue.
 
I wanna say I've purchased steel ammo with labels from Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, Bosnia.

But I'd have to check boxes and I buy steel ammo for a few various Commie-Calibers
 
Cayce Charles said:
Amen brother. The 'Second' doesn't guarantee the right to buy Communist ammo.
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Communist? Have you been asleep for a couple of decades, or born in the last twenty and do not know any better? Russia has not been Communist for a long time, and are the antithesis of the type of communism/socialism that we are beseiged with here at home.
 
How fast things have changed. In less than a week everyone went from MAGA to now Trump and the Republican controlled Congress have a totalitarian agenda.

George P said:
No, it isn't; but what makes you think with their totalitarian agenda that they won't move to ban ALL imports of ammo, or at least ammo for semi rifles? Or that they won't extend that to internet sales?
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TTv2:
Some of us have ordered a 1,000-rd. case of ammo *Before* ever buying our first rifle in a specific chambering.

For example, my first Lee-Enfield when surplus ammo was very quickly disappearing in '09 or so. Samco barely still had 1940's or 50's .303 ammo at .20/rd.

MAKster: The topic for Trump had been How to keep guns away from dangerously unstable people.
He failed to keep clarifying what he meant. This original objective was obscured.
 
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JMO, but I'd definitely choose the 308 over 7.62x39. I do have an SKS, and a good supply of reloadable brass, so it's not that I'm opposed to the 7.62. It's just that 308 is so much more versatile, with lots of reasonably priced components. I load 45 grains of Varget under a 150 grain bullet for 2660 FPS in my 18.5" 308, and it is a very pleasant shooting round. There is room to bump that load up a couple of grains if I need to do that or I can switch to a 130 grain bullet if that's what I want. I can't think of anything the 7.62 can do that the 308 can't.
 
Taiwan is not completely part of communist China if you're worried about buying commie ammo. The republic of China that we allied with in WWII was exiled to Taiwan when the people's republic of China (commies) took over the mainland.

There was a compromise made where the commies passed the laws and are the official government. Taiwan maintains a separate military that has it's weak side exposed to the US and is set to ally with the US in the event of a US/China war.
 
I wanted to support the real Ukraine during the insurgency, and didn't know whether their ammo factories in the eastern areas had been invaded, or could not otherwise function, possibly shutdown.

7.62x39 ammo boxes online almost never seem to have the "Made in Ukraine" label anywhere that is Visible, in the ads I've seen, linked to Gunbot (ammo search engine).

Just found some: "Red Army Standard" 9x18 Mak (SGAmmo), and "Wolf" 7.62x39. (Lucky Gunner).
The only ammo I would Not miss is Tula. Both Yugo SKS suffered bad popped primers (and a firing pin blown out the Rear of an SKS Bolt !) using Tula. "Murray's Gunsmithing" in Bowie TX ''cured' both rifles, permanently.
 
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