What's the most accurate 9mm?
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My most accurate pistol is the 9x21 IMI Pardini GT9-1, 6'' barrel with polygonal rifling. These are a couple groups I made, both in the very same range session, ten yards, five shots, two hands, standing, slow fire with commercial Fiocchi Top Target 124gr. CP-RN.
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I’m also not very good with a pistol but the one I seem to do the least worse with it my Sig 229
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My CZC A01-LD and Shadow 2 are both very accurate guns. Not sure on the most though.
General Geoff
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Damn, lotta Shadow 2 owners here. Might need to start a club!
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Most accurate 9mm pistol I ever saw is the Sig P-210. Watched a guy at the range put em' all into one hole at 25 yards. From a rest, two handed hold. The pistol itself looked like it had been through a couple of world wars, Swiss neutrality notwithstanding. The fact that it shot so accurately, while being that worn out looking, impressed the hell out of me. I think the P-210 is the most accurate standard production pistol of all time.
Which leaves the custom and semi-custom guns. Any of the custom builders can build you a gun that will shoot amazing groups. Les built one that ransomed under an inch an 50 yards. I have shot a Wilson 1911 that I could hit anything I aimed at, which is the opposite result of my usual attempts at handgun accuracy.
Which leaves the custom and semi-custom guns. Any of the custom builders can build you a gun that will shoot amazing groups. Les built one that ransomed under an inch an 50 yards. I have shot a Wilson 1911 that I could hit anything I aimed at, which is the opposite result of my usual attempts at handgun accuracy.
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For me...my SIG228.
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For me, the HK P7 was the most accurate 9mm I have ever owned or shot...and I owned at least a half dozen of them.
I don't own a 9mm 1911, but my .45acp 1911s are among the most accurate handguns I have owned, so if I bought a 9mm 1911, I would imagine it might be in the running.
Unfortunately, I have no interest in 9mm 1911s. Sorry. Or...not.
I don't own a 9mm 1911, but my .45acp 1911s are among the most accurate handguns I have owned, so if I bought a 9mm 1911, I would imagine it might be in the running.
Unfortunately, I have no interest in 9mm 1911s. Sorry. Or...not.
If we're strictly discussing mechanical accuracy, a Swiss P210 is going to be hard to beat. Test targets are routinely 1-1.5" groups with a full 10 shots at 50 meters, which is about 55 yards. I don't know any other 9mm handgun that will beat that. There may be close close or maybe even equal, but that's difficult to beat.
Now, practical accuracy is generally a little different, as the sights, sight radius, trigger, ergonomics, etc can all play a factor. Lots of target/competition pistols are extremely accurate. I'm fortunate enough to own them and can attest to this.
Now, practical accuracy is generally a little different, as the sights, sight radius, trigger, ergonomics, etc can all play a factor. Lots of target/competition pistols are extremely accurate. I'm fortunate enough to own them and can attest to this.
I was hoping you'd drop by to share your experience with high end pistols
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Most accurate, I don't know. And I suspect that "most accurate" might change as this or that pistol might prefer one ammunition type over another.
Among the most accurate 9mm pistols I have shot are the SIG P210s and X-5, FN GP Comp, HK USP Expert, P9S Target models and P7M8, S&W 952, and of course good 1911 9mms...
Among the most accurate 9mm pistols I have shot are the SIG P210s and X-5, FN GP Comp, HK USP Expert, P9S Target models and P7M8, S&W 952, and of course good 1911 9mms...
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The most accurate handgun is dependent upon the competency of the marksman operator.
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Coincidentally I was thinking this morning about handgun accuracy, because the lightest triggers seem to be on well tuned revolvers, but they suffer from having six chambers and inevitable variations in machining them, whereas the auto's need a little heavier trigger to avoid firing shock from dropping the hammer when the slide closes, the revolver not being subject to that as it's cocked while still.
I finally decided a single shot would have to have all of the best attributes for both (One chamber and no problem from jarring) for accuracy without the benefit of extra fast shots, so now I'm wondering how accurate the most accurate single shot pistol is.
I finally decided a single shot would have to have all of the best attributes for both (One chamber and no problem from jarring) for accuracy without the benefit of extra fast shots, so now I'm wondering how accurate the most accurate single shot pistol is.
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The most accurate handgun is the one that shoots the best from a ransom rest. The thread is about the accuracy of the handgun, not the shooter.
I think most people realize the shooter is the biggest variable.
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With out the shooter the accuracy of the handgun is a mute point
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My CZ TSO is the my best shootin’ 9mm I own & very accurate too. Mrs has a Vigil that will shoot a nice group & tied with my BHP for 2nd.
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"Since the dispersion of the weapon is added to the dispersion of the shooter, it can only be desired that the weapon have no dispersion at all."
Jeff Cooper.
How far afield do you want to take it?
Remington XP-100 is just a sawn off bolt action rifle, as accurate as any.
TC Contender shoots as well as many rifles.
The ISSF Free Pistol is made for 50 meter slow fire. US shooters prepping for Olympics found it enough more accurate than their NRA repeaters to matter.
Colt, Smith, and H&R made single shots derived from revolvers back when target shooting was largely slow fire.
Jeff Cooper.
How far afield do you want to take it?
Remington XP-100 is just a sawn off bolt action rifle, as accurate as any.
TC Contender shoots as well as many rifles.
The ISSF Free Pistol is made for 50 meter slow fire. US shooters prepping for Olympics found it enough more accurate than their NRA repeaters to matter.
Colt, Smith, and H&R made single shots derived from revolvers back when target shooting was largely slow fire.
I assume you meant “moot” point
Not really. The most accurate handgun minimizes the shooter’s error…at least it doesn't add to their limitations in technique.
A pistol capable of consistent sub-1” groups at 50 yards means that larger groups shot at that distance would be caused by the shooter’s technique. A pistol only capable of 4” groups at that distance would mean a shooter with the skills to shoot 2” groups at that distance wouldn’t be able to group much smaller than 6”
No it isn’t a “mute” point
We are discussing the accuracy of the gun. In order to do that, you need to remove all other variables. Didn’t you take science class in grade school?
How are you supposed to determine the accuracy of the GUN if you bring in the variable of the SHOOTER? It’s two different things.
Yes, the shooter is the biggest variable and I think most people with half a brain would know that. You can’t determine the accuracy of the gun itself unless you remove the variable.
This isn’t rocket science.
Sure, some guns are easier to shoot more accurately, due to their triggers, sight radius, etc, etc, but that wasn’t the question.
Those variables have absolutely nothing to do with the mechanical accuracy of the pistol.
There are a number of 9mm pistols out there that are very accurate. I differentiate in between mechanical and practical accuracy, with letter being more important. In my limited experience, the top guns are the S&W Performance Center guns, Sphinx AT2000S, SIG P210 Neuhausen models, some custom and semi custom 1911s (my favorite is a Nowlin Challenger), lange Parabellum 06, HK Expert, some Walther P1/P38 and the list goes on.
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True, but some make it much easier than others.
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