Where does the .30-06 fit in long range shooting?

[someguy2800]

They were - just high school kids who didn’t know anything except what looked fast. Hit a 60mph rolling start and that van could hold its own in a 2 mile top speed run against the milquetoast stock sports models the kids had. Remember, the 80’s and early 90’s sports cars weren’t what we would really consider as impressive - so the competition wasn’t so stiff if I picked my marks wisely. Even the 5.0 mustang of that era was so detuned for emissions, the top end was nearly gutless.

Oh I remember high school main street drag racing well. We had a hierarchy of who had the fastest junk but a 2018 Toyota Camry V6 would have cleaned all our clocks lol.

 

[someguy2800]

Building an ugly car that hauls is called building a sleeper.

You mean something like this 1200hp street car?

 

[Art Eatman]

I sporterized a 1917 Enfield, back in 1950/1951 and began handloading for the '06. Life happened and it was not until 1970 that I returned to the '06. It's still my preference, although there are many happy memories from using a .243 and a 7mm08. (And the Swift, the .22-250 and .the 223.)

Cars? A tad over fifty years back I stuffed a 350 hp 327 into a 1961 Austin-Healey. Quarter mile in the middle twelves at about 120; topped out at 146. Nice commuter car. Then, I stuffed a low-performance 427 into a 1967 Camaro. The valves floated at 6,500, so I told folks that it was governored at 150. Another nice commuter car and trailer-puller.

 

[Jessesky]

Depends what you’re shooting. It’s a 600 yard deer cartridge

 

[Bfh_auto]

Theres not much need for long range shooting while hunting except for fur or animals you have looked over, or a wounded animal going away on a bad day....but it happens now and then, with Bears and Wolves being the only long distance shots Ill start out with.

To actually be serious, if you hunt Alaska, a 30-06 is what all others are compared to.
Also, you can find 30-06 almost ANYWHERE in AK, with maybe .22lr and 12 gauge also having that distinction........should you have need.....

So it's basically a monkey wrench. Works as a hammer and wrench, but isn't the best at either. But if you can only choose one tool....
I don't like them but I respect it's ability.

 

[theotherwaldo]

Yep.
The .30-06 round and platform is a good utility infielder but it is more challenging to use at long range target shooting.
After all, it was never really designed for precision shooting at over 1,000 yards, back 112 years ago.
It was designed for volley fire at that range, but not precision.

 

[Art Eatman]

My father sporterized a couple of 03s just after WW II. A 4X Bear Cub on one; a 6X on the other. He handloaded to GI specs with 4831 and used the old Hornady 150-grain Spire Point. Witnesses spoke of three occasions of his one-shot kills on whitetail bucks out around 500 yards.

IOW, a muzzle velocity of around 2,700 to 2,800 was plenty good for clean kills at 500 yards.

Separately from the '06 as an '06: My father and two hunting buddies. Very windy day. A "way over yonder" good buck. One buddy passed the shot as the wind was too high. My father offered, "I'll break his neck from here." So, offhand, he shot. Missed, but it gave him the windage. The next shot broke the buck's neck. His buddies talked about the shot; my father just grinned.

I never got to be that good, offhand. Any sort of hasty field rest? Yeah, no problem. With a rest I always worked to be able to say that anything inside of 500 yards belonged to me. That was then, but now at 84 it's all BTDT.

 

[BigBore44]

My high school cars. 66 Caprice with a full roller, built, 402 big block. And a frame off 68 Olds 442 with a very built .060 over 455, built TCI T-400, 4:11 true posi and 4000rpm stall. The Caprice never made it to the track before it was stolen. The 442 ran 11.04 smoking the tires through 1st and finally hooking in 2nd. A better driver could have done much better. But hell I was a teenager. And it was fun. Found the Caprice 2 years ago, 15 years after it was stolen, next to the Sherrifs house. Guy said if I ever wanted it back, he’d make me a deal. I plan on taking him up on that one day.

 

[PWC]

If you still have the pink slip, seems to me you should be offering him the deal....to avoid prosecution for theft or receiving stolen property.

 

[caribou]

So it's basically a monkey wrench. Works as a hammer and wrench, but isn't the best at either. But if you can only choose one tool....
I don't like them but I respect it's ability.

Its basicly not a monkey wrench. Not for hunting, anyway.
''Choosing one tool'' isnt in this equasion, unless were also choosing to only hunt big Game.
The 30-06 is a great round for most all big game and large fur, and its range is what makes it great, it can shoot as far as a hunters ability. If Big game is the 'nail', the 30-06 is a hammer.
Its unethical and impractical to use it on EVERYTHING...

The .22lr is distincly small, and the 12 gauge distinctly a short range round, in range perspective, as we wouldnt shoot Fox with a 30-06, nor Geese flying by. What would be the point of ruining meat or skin?

The other rounds I mentioned are often used and are available because they are the right rounds for the wide variety of game available here in AK.
Thats why I take two guns hunting; usually my Mosin and either a .22lr or a 12 gauge, depending on the season.
When Im on foot, then I carry one or the other, depending on what I see......and if I can see it, its probably in 30-06 range......

 

[Bfh_auto]

Its basicly not a monkey wrench. Not for hunting, anyway.
''Choosing one tool'' isnt in this equasion, unless were also choosing to only hunt big Game.
The 30-06 is a great round for most all big game and large fur, and its range is what makes it great, it can shoot as far as a hunters ability. If Big game is the 'nail', the 30-06 is a hammer.
Its unethical and impractical to use it on EVERYTHING...

The .22lr is distincly small, and the 12 gauge distinctly a short range round, in range perspective, as we wouldnt shoot Fox with a 30-06, nor Geese flying by. What would be the point of ruining meat or skin?

The other rounds I mentioned are often used and are available because they are the right rounds for the wide variety of game available here in AK.
Thats why I take two guns hunting; usually my Mosin and either a .22lr or a 12 gauge, depending on the season.
When Im on foot, then I carry one or the other, depending on what I see......and if I can see it, its probably in 30-06 range......

I meant for center-fire type hunting roles. It's not the best choice for predator control, but it works. It isn't the best choice for bear, but it works.
Calling it a monkey wrench wasn't meant as a diss.
The 22 and a shotgun are definitely not replaced by anything.

 

[eastbank]

the good old 3006 beats the 308 by more than a little with modern powders, the178gr AMAX can be pushed at over 2700 fps in the 06. and I own and shoot both.

 

[someguy2800]

Found the Caprice 2 years ago, 15 years after it was stolen, next to the Sherrifs house. Guy said if I ever wanted it back, he’d make me a deal. I plan on taking him up on that one day.

If you still have the pink slip, seems to me you should be offering him the deal....to avoid prosecution for theft or receiving stolen property.

Last I checked that car still belongs to you. There is a statute of limitation on possession of stolen property, I think 3 years, but there is no limitation on being able to recover property that was stolen from you.

 

[BigBore44]

Well maybe I’ll check in with the insurance company. But I think we would have to repay the money they gave us for the car. That was $20,000 in 1999.

 

[BigBore44]

Guy I really don’t want this thread to get closed for progressing off topic. If someone has input or questions about the car, I’d be happy to talk. But please PM me.

 

[Robert]

Not. A. Car. Forum. Sheesh...