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why so many 'cops' in DC with revolvers

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by wtr100, Oct 10, 2012.

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  1. wtr100

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    In DC with #2 son's field trip and one of my favorite pass times is cop watching. There's everthing from 'Coperator' to 70's double knit. A lot of Sig and Glocks to be seen for sure. What struck me is how many were wearing wheel guns. The only place I see those any more are some old school Chicago PD guys

    what gives?
     
  2. ClickClickD'oh

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    Are you sure they aren't "Special Police" wearing wheel guns... because if they are, those aren't police at all but DCs creative name for armed security guards... who pretty much have the choice of wheel gun or wheel gun (with a few exceptions).
     
  3. wtr100

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    well they we're a little on the er XXL end of the spectrum so you may be right - are they at least loaded?
     
  4. k_dawg

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    Well, we certainly would not want to spook the sheeple in gov't by seeing nasty 'machine gun pistols'!
     
  5. Shovelhead

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    If they use the same training and tactics as the New York cops did recently, it might be to limit the number of innocent civilians wounded.
    Or maybe due to budget cutbacks, they just get one bullet and have to keep it in their pocket.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. JR47

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    Many D.C. businesses utilize off-duty DC Metro cops. Others use the local Security Firms, like Wackenhut. Most Security Firms in the area train with .38 Special revolvers. Some GSA Police still carry revolvers, as well.
     
  7. Drail

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    They are probably private security. In most of the cities I have lived in security guards are limited to revolvers only. Don't ask me why, they just are. In most of the Federal offices here in Indiana they use private security and they all carry revolvers. I see a lot of GP 100s. All of this stuff is "outsourced" these days.
     
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    Probably similar to the Loomis job I applied for a while back. They issued 38 Special wheelguns, gave the option to carry our own semiauto on our dime.

    Very glad I didn't get hired.:barf:
     
  9. W.E.G.

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    Dick Heller is a special police officer in the District of Columbia.
     
  10. SharpsDressedMan

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    Who's Dick Heller, and why would that matter?
     
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    Heller vs. District of Columbia, a recent landmark SCOTUS case affirming 2nd Amendment.
     
  12. Deaf Smith

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    Heck gang, the wheelgun police might shoot straiter due to the knowledge they have only six shots!

    Never ever underestimate an antagonist, be they use a wheelgun, singleshot, leveraction, etc.. instead of the newest high-speed, low-drag gizmos. They may just be real strait shooters.

    Deaf
     
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    Wow, I havent snorted milk out my nose in some time. That was pretty good.
     
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    Funny, he was a guard at a building I started working at several years ago. Thurgood Marshall building. Entirely Supreme Court admin building. He "left" shortly before I learned of this case.
     
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    Oh, I remember him now! I'm hell on names! :D
     
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    Most if not all private security working for US goverment are limited to 38 revolvers. Smiths, rugers and etc. Some states only allow PSO (Private Security Officers) to carry revolvers. Some areas of the country are under a New federal contract and have gone to Semi's (Seven different makes approved) Sig, Glock, S&W etc as well as only certain models. All will be 40 S&W and depending on area covered limited to 10rd mags. Wackenhut PSO's in Philly had Ruger GP100s a few years ago but I have heard they now have semi's. Of course I have been hearing for the last 8 years that I will soon be carrying a semi on duty. I am not holding my breath.
     
  17. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    If it was about the weapons, I don't see what's wrong with it.
     
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    Most of the security at the Smithsonian museums carry revolvers. Museum of American History has 3 bored guards with revolvers at the entrance. Air and Space Museum has 2 dozen slightly less bored guards with revolvers, all in the lobby. National Archives has 3 actually-alert guards at the entrance with Glocks and 3 more in the Rotunda, also with Glocks. Aside from that, didn't see any other revolvers. I was up there in early September.
     
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    I remember as a child growing up ALL cops carried revolvers. It was about the time Miami Vice started using real IPSC shooters and the law enforcement establishment had their eyes opened on what was possible with a semi auto and some skill. I remember several officers talking about playing the tape from Vice with Jim Zubiena executing a perfect Mozambique on a guard who was holding a revolver on him. They said they all played that tape over and over and discussed it. Within 2 or 3 years police depts. all over the U.S. set about to "convince" their bosses that revolvers were so outdated and inadequate that police officers will be at serious risk unless they start carrying semi autos. And so they did. That one scene got my attention. Zubiena remembered Michael Mann telling him not to worry about going really fast, they could just speed up the film. Everyone on the set was stunned when he shot the scene. It was so fast they didn't need to speed it up. Ironically now we have Jerry Miculek opening a lot of people's eyes about those old antiquated revolvers. The more things change the more they stay the same.
     
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    Washington DC law defined just about any semi-auto as a machine gun until very recently.

    The feds can do as they wish, but private security guards in DC are sort of stuck.

    Heller was not even allowed to bring his gun home.

    Many are 'company owned.'
     
  21. hang fire

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    why so many 'cops' in DC with revolvers

    Uh, because revolvers work just fine.
     
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    As noted, you'll more typically see private security personnel with revolvers, as well as some of the more niche police agencies.

    Just some of the uniformed police agencies in metro DC include:

    • DC police
    • Metro Transit Police
    • Washington National Cathedral Police
    • DC Protective Services Police
    • DC Department of Corrections
    • DC Public Library Police
    • DC Housing Authority Police
    • National Zoo Police
    • Federal Protective Service
    • Capitol Hill Police
    • DHS Police
    • DOD Police
    • FBI Police
    • US Park Police
    • Secret Service
    • Supreme Court Police
    • State Department Diplomatic Security Service
    • US Mint Police
    • Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police
    • Government Printing Office Police
    • Amtrak Police

    Plus, just about every significant office building I've been in seems to have uniformed private security, particularly if there is a federal office or other high-profile tenant.

    And then there's the various campus police (not all of which are armed):
    • American University Public Safety
    • Catholic University Public Safety
    • Gallaudet University Public Safety
    • George Washington Unverisity Public Safety
    • Georgetown University Public Safety
    • Howard University Campus Police
    • UDC Police

    And then...
    • Veterans Administration Police (at the VA Hospital)
    • Washington Hospital Center Police (revolvers, last I saw)

    FWIW, on a different topic, if you have a tail light out, it is completely possible to get pulled over by multiple different police agencies and get ticketed for the same "offense" over and over in just a five mile drive. :banghead:
     
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    I'm glad those private guards are only allowed .38s. At least they wouldn't kill anyone.

    :rolleyes:
     
  24. wojownik

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    Well, sadly, the Wackenhut security officer killed at the Holocaust Museum three years ago was shot with a Winchester Model 6 .22 rifle. He never got a chance to draw his .38 revolver.
     
  25. CajunBass

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    And the problem with that is? :confused:
     
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