Woman Ticketed For Sitting On Park Bench With No Kids

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Does the city have parks that do not allow children?
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I would vote for this.

I think we need just one "grownups only" park. Its a challenge to determine which is more annoying while trying to read a book and catch some sun, the Canadian Geese or the Kids.

We have a plan here that involves trapping the geese and gassing them...
 
Challenge accepted

"Its a challenge to determine which is more annoying while trying to read a book and catch some sun, the Canadian [sic] Geese or the Kids."

Annoying as both geese and kids can be, I'll suggest an equal, if not greater, nuisance: Unleashed, unsupervised dogs.

Dog bites are worse than goose bites and the crap pile is bigger. :eek:
 
Annoying as both geese and kids can be, I'll suggest an equal, if not greater, nuisance: Unleashed, unsupervised dogs.
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We already have laws against these, and an entire enforcement department under the government to deal with them. Can i call child-control and get those durn kids off my lawn? :p
 
Personally, I think the woman should be ticketed for being stupid. She had to pass 1, maybe 2 signs to get to the bench that stipulated park rules as established by the city. If she can't follow ordnances posted just a few feet from her, then she needs the ticket...sort of like illegal parking next to the no parking sign.
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Well, of course... because unlike parking my car in area that may or may not be allocated for parking my car a park bench has a multitude of resaons for existence. How <b>dare</b> a tax paying citizen assume that that park bench was meant to park their behind on? The gaul!
 
Police enforce laws. Thats what they do. Stupid laws are not the fault of the police, its the people who passed them.
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Only the ones they want to they pick a choose all the time that is why I basically have very little respect for LEO.
I always hear that ther are a few bad ones that make all the rest look bad. I say that it is the other way around and most of the ones that are good leave the force. for one thing LEO always say you can beat the charge but not the ride.
I say that if the LEO knows that you can beat the rap then they sould not take you in in other words I know it is not illegal but I am going to arrest you any way becuse I can. I know I spent 48 hours in lock up becuse I was picked up on an arrson charge that only the county LEO thought I had something to do with becuse a guy said I did it one guy. Oh yea that was the guy whose father came on to our property pointing to guns threating to shoot everyone and he is the one that got shot and yes they tried to get us all for assalt with a deadly weapon. Even the local city LEO said we had nothing to do with it and the guy whos car burned said who did it and he does not even know us. Then when I got to lock up they put a 72 hour hold on me becuse my name was the same as a guy they where looking for for rape. Oh yea the guy they where looking for was black and I am white. I guess I can see how they thought it was me and it took my atty. over 24 hours to find this out.
Now becuse of that my CHL is being held up for prob. 180 days for further checks. It cost me over 15K becuse of that and cost me my job. Grand Jury laughed the D.A. out of the room.
What I am getting at is LEO think they are god and can do what ever they want and whose to stop them. That is why I never get picked for a jury when they ask can you belive what the police say? I always say no they all lie thru there teeth they could not tell the truth if there life depended on it.
They will Lie to get the conviction. look at what happened to Houstons crime lab how many inoccent people are in prison now becuse of them? alot have already been released.
Look at NOPD HPD LAPD NYPD they are all the same.
If you do not think you live in a police state think again.
as I have stated else where this is Amerika now.
This is why everywhere I go I have a tape recorder and I am even thinking about installing camra in my car like they do.
Try filming them they get real upset threaten you but your only defense against them is a camcorder and record everything.
If it is used out of contex well REAP WHAT YOU SOW. They do the exact same thing and they hate it when you use there tactics.

DO NOT STEAL THE GOV. HATES COMPETION.
DO NOT LIE THE LEO HATE COMPETION.
this sounds like LEO bashing but the truth hurts.
I know I will probably have LEO beating down my door trumping up some other lie becuse of this post. But I do not care becuse I have my handy camcorder with me.
DID you know that the 1934 NFA was realy a raceist act?
I was becuse they where affraid of the Blacks rioting and taking up arms.
Did you know that Marijuana laws where becuse of the hispanics in the early 1900 it was common use among them and city gov. used it to harras and jail them.
Look at most of these laws and there are some racist reason behind it.
Is an LEO your friend? No I say he is the enemy.

I had one ask me after this same conversations with a group of them they said but you call us when you need us. I say I have to call 911 becuse I can not just shoot them and toss them in the garbage. Yes there jaws hit the table and where speachless.
Well they get to why not me?
 
I wasn't really advocating childless parks. I was trying to point out that prohibiting some taxpayers from using taxpayer funded parks is wrong and probably illegal. She should sue. Not for being arrested, but for being denied use of something she paid for.
 
Not to split hairs or anthything, but her tax dollars paid for the signs that she ignored too.
Probably but the signs should not really be there.As the father of two small kids I'm all for keeping pervs.away from parks, but this? We demand our rights, but what about her right to use a public area that she helped fund????
 
I bet someone was there at the city council meeting when it was discussed and never spoke up about it.
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Yeah, right .... :rolleyes:

Went to a city council meeting a few years ago (this was before we moved out of town). A bunch of us were protesting a "proposed" new dog ordinance. After about a hour of very heated discussion (during which the under-sherrif stated that he would not enforce the law), one of the council members blatantly informed us that they had already made up their mind to enact the ordinance, and this "public comment" meeting was just a formality. :banghead: I was so dumbfounded that he would actually say such a thing out loud in public that I had no idea what to say in response (well, I had an idea of some things to say that weren't very polite ;) )

After that, I decided to run for council at the next opportunity (in order to be a royal pain to those little tyrants), but decided to just move out of town instead.
 
if they are watching so closely... I don't see how a "ma'am, this is an area only for people with children or pets, please move on." wouldn't suffice. if she shows up again, ticket her... for all I know I may have walked past hundreds of signs restricting something that I was in violation of. common sense is a great thing, its just a shame its not a little more widespread.
 
Last night on the "news" a guy got a ticket for honking his horn. He was driving past an anti war demonstration ORGANIZED BY THE SLC MAYOR and his wife had urged him to honk in support. The cop said to the "criminal" that the officer "had given out dozens of these tickets" that day. The mayor (even though he's rabidly anti gun) is on the right side of this and will definitely follow up.
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The SLC Mayor is the biggest bafoon in local public office. He uses his office to grandstand on issues not related to his office or power, and sticks his nose in the business of communities that aren't under his jurisdiction. Add to that he's a pompous jerk, and generally unlikable. He berates the people in his office to the point his staff is like a revolving door.

I need to start keeping a vallium by the t.v. for when the police apologists speak because on the same "news" cast, we learned that a West Valley City cop was cleared (shhhhhocking) for shooting an unarmed man several times and killing him when he approached the officer and pulled out a "shiny" flashlight (yea yea, I know, not smart in the current climate of trigger happy cops, but summary execution wasn't necessary, especially since the cop hadn't accurately determined if there was even a threat to his preciousness). Is it just me or are cops trained now that THEIR safety is more important and held to a higher standard than anyone elses? Is it just me or are they trained to shoot first and ask questions later? They always trot out the tired old phrase that "The officer felt he feared for his safety." Have you noticed that officer Joe's "feelings" are now justification for making your kids fatherless? I wonder what would happen if someone with a carry permit said the same thing after killing someone holding a flashlight.
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You neglected to mention that the officers were observing activity at another house on the street late at night, and this man came out to see who they were and what they were doing. The man lives at a home that houses a known gang member, and officers have been called to his home several times before. The officers identified themselves, and told the man to go back inside his house. He came back out later, and was again instructed to go back inside. He ignores this order, approaches the officers in their vehicle, reaches behind his back for a metallic object, and was shot.
 
Why a park for kids only?

Everybody seems to be assuming there is something wrong with having a park reserved for the use of kids and those accompanying the kids. Why? We have city-owned lands set aside for the exclusive use of old heaters;in tasteless trousers playing golf. You think they won't do something about people loitering there without a bag of golf clubs? We have public lands devoted exclusively to soccer, baseball, and in some enlightened communities, shooting.
When a park is posted like that one is, its often a small set-aside in a much larger park. It's often the result of the larger park being overrun by people and activities which children probably shouldn't be around. I used to live about halfway between two city parks, each maybe 10 acres. One, the newer, was quickly taken over by groups of unsupervised teenagers who monopolized all playground equipment, all tables, all parking spaces, all shelters, for hours on end. They didn't PLAY on the swings, just sat there smoking cigarettes and talking dirty. The park was and remains today useless for its original purpose of providing space for actual play by actual children.
The other park had a small area set aside under rules like the ones the woman was accused of breaking. It was the only part of the park that wasn't dominated all day long by the chronically unemployed. That small part was useful to children, and those who accompanied the children.
Most of us have to kind of go along with the program for any kind of public property to serve any useful purpose. So she CAN be fined up to $1,000 for sitting there. Doesn't mean she will be. I've seen a lot of such violations dismissed outright or let off for $1 in United States currency.
 
The Rivington Playground on Manhattan's East Side has a small sign at the entrance that says adults are prohibited unless they are accompanied by a child. Sandra Catena, 47, said she didn't see the sign when she sat down to wait for an arts festival to start.
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Wrong: "Adults prohibited unless accompanied by a child."

Right: "Children prohibited unless accompanied by an adult."

That was easy.
 
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