your accurate rifles?

[TonyAngel]

Having a heavy barrel could mean more shots without cooling, I suppose. I'm really hoping that someone will chime in on that. My big question is how is the quality of the stock barrels that come on these bolt guns.

I'm asking because on my trip to the range, several guys told me that I should let my barrel cool. I'm really not used to doing that. I've been building my own ARs for a little while now and I've found that with a quality barrel, the POI changes very little as the barrel heats up. Most of the groups that I posted above were shot out of a barrel that was so hot that it would peel skin if you touched it.

Can you expect to have to get an aftermarket barrel to get that kind of performance?

 

[Zak Smith]

and

from

-- two different barrels, two different cartridges.


The bottom group comprised five rounds from the AWSM in four inches at 940 yards. The TRG-42 shot three rounds into three inches in the top group at the same distance before the scope base came loose. Both .338LM.

 

[JoeMal]

Beautiful Zak...absolutely beautiful

 

[unwise11]

nice groups zac. i hope one day to get that.

well, i let my sporter contour cool, people often confuse these with the ultra thin barrels on hunting rifles but they arent, theyre tapered, i chose it for mobility, and accuracy, not too heavy or light.
heavy barrels are the biggest load of.. poo, i see, often people who hunt, want them for accuracy, when most of their shots are cold bore, and they usually don't miss something that big, but..
for a sniper, where a consistant barrel after 20 shots is a must, there is a point. but for me, a target shooter and soon to be hunter, not quite yet, but my next gun will be a heavy barrel for sure. since i've realized that i dont like cooling as often, but i still LOVE my gun.
please post your opinions, im an open minded due.

 

[Zak Smith]

My favorite barrel contour is the medium Palma (for non-magnum cartridges). It is much lighter than typical "match" or "tactical" barrels in the US.



Also note how relatively thin the .338LM barrel is on a stock TRG-42


If a barrel is high-quality and put together into a rifle right, the barrel does not have to be super heavy to be accurate. Nor does heat necessarily cause accuracy problems.

 

[unwise11]

a slower .308 round with a higher grain bullet heats my barrel less than the 3,000 feet per second sst loads. i hate those for the heat and is too fast for me. i like 168 grains.

 

[unwise11]

also, for anyone who ever shoots a .308..
never ever ever ever change from 150 to 180 grain, your zero will die.. and once you go 180 nothing else i had was on. so i threw it out. lol. aka offhand.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Changing ammo usually means you have to re-zero...if you want a tack driving gun....

a heavy barrel also adds rigidness...thus their harmonics when shot are more consistent, they resist outside pressures better and are less susceptible to poor bedding jobs.

 

[Kachok]

Kachoc, I just got me a T3 in 6.5 x 55, aint shot it enough to settle on one particular ammo and I dont reload, just bought a couple of boxes of Remington 140 core lokt, how has that worked for you or have you tried that yet, I have some rifles that hate Remington, love Winchester, etc... go figure...

I skiped the core locks because they have a bad rep in the 6.5x55 for some reson + they are much more expensive then my winchesters and Prvi ammo. I have read good reviews on the Fusion ammo, but I have plenty of brass right now so I won't need to try it. I get Winchester for $16 a box and Prvi for $13 and some change. BTW you can get much more performance and versatility out of the 6.5x55 if you relaod. Factory ammo is way under pressure for a modern rifle. You can push 120 gr bullets to 270 trajectory for deer, or 85 gr to 25-06 varmit speeds, throw in a controled expansion 156 or 160 gr at a respectable 2500 fps and you have the most versitile rifle in the world.

 

[Ol` Joe]

My "fun gun" a 10-22 with a LW fluted barrel from Clark Custom.





A test target I shot a week ago comparing SK Rifle Match (stickies) to Wolf Match (target squares) at 50 yd.

 

[pbcaster45]

Right now my most accurate rifle is my Remington SPS customized by Bryant Custom. It's has a Krieger barrel chambered in .260 Remington.



Five shots at 200 yards with a Nosler 120 Ballistic Tip handload.

 

[essayons21]

^ B&C stock?

Nice group @ 200

 

[pbcaster45]

Its a H-S Precision Varmint Stock.

 

[USMC8541]

My most accurate rifle was a Styer SSG in 308, when I lived on a ranch out west I made a game out of poppin grey digger squirrels, I hit some at 250, but not every time

 

[ScratchnDent]

Ol' Joe, beautiful stock on that 10/22!

 

[Karl Hungus]

Unless I'm working on loads or zeroing I never shoot paper, but here's some steel:

Three shot group @ 300yds:


..from a Tikka 595 in .22/250:


...here's some more (both before wind correction and after over-correction):


Lucky head shot on a ram @ 300:


...with a K-31:

 

[unwise11]

nice. i want to shoot steel, just dont know where i could, and where to get steel. my range is a no richochets kinda place after .45 acp bullets were found mushroomed and flattened next to the clubhouse from idiots shooting fmj at steel.

 

[Karl Hungus]

Ricochets are a non-issue if done right. Hard steel (AR500) like the IPSC plate splatters bullets. Mild steel (like the cratered out ram) is a bit of a different story, but I still have never had any issues. Mind you, the closest I will shoot at mild steel is 100 yards.

Big Dog Steel is a great place to get some nice AR500 targets: Big Dog Steel.

Both photos were shot with SMK's: 52gr for .22/250, 175gr for 7.5 Swiss.

 

[unwise11]

cool, i shoot a .308. and where im a member i belive they dont allow you to shoot anything other than paper and the occasional can or whatever.

 

[788Ham]

Future Ranger,

You're doing alright, don't expect to, nor give up because you can't shoot like some of these other guys, in time young man, in time! Some of these guys are just showing how quality guns, and good shooting habits can make you a better shot. Stick with it, we've all shot pounds and pounds of powder, you're doing alright now, I've seen guys older than you that can't shoot that good! Semper Fi !

 

[GunTech]

Couldn't find a scan of a match loads, but here is a hunting load I worked up for this rifle.

 

[valkyriemc]

How about this? >358 JDJ 200 yds.

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[joed]

No pictures or targets, but I don't own a bolt rifle that is not accurate. I have 2 remington 700 VS rifles, a .22-250 and .25-06. The .25 with Krieger barrel shoots just under 1/2" at 100 yards. The 250 is brand new and I'm working on it.

Also own a Win 70 Stealth in .308 that shoots just over 1/2". Rarely shoot it so haven't had a chance to see what it's capable of.

Last is a 700 Classic in .300 H&H mag, shoot under 1" but I need to work on my flinching with it.

 

[esheato]

Cooper 21 in 223 AI (left handed, skeleton butt plate, AAA claro walnut, checkered bolt knob, Leupold VX-III 6.5-20 w/ varmint hunter reticle)

Better than average, but it shows the potential (5 shots)

Cooper 22 in 243 AI (left handed, Neidner buttplate, skeleton grip cap, exhibition claro walnut, checkered bolt knob, NF 5.5-25 NPR-R1
(Will take a pic tomorrow)

8 7/8" inch group at 1k


HS Precision Lightweight Sporter in .260 Rem (Grassland camo, Leupold 4.5-14 B&C reticle)

Groups at 100 (3 shots)

Group at 300 yards (3 shots)

I've got an HS 338 LM also, but I'm still working the kinks out...no pics (yet )

Ed

 

[ball3006]

My most accurate rifle is a Finn M39 Mosin Nagant with a scout scope. It will shoot under one inch at 100 yards. Followed by a custom 243 I built back in the 60s that will do under one inch. The next group which shoots a good one inch group is a Finn 1943 Mosin Nagant 91/30 with a Tikka barrel, a Finn 1937 Mosin Nagant 91/30, and a Remington 700 BDL in 3006. The M39 does it with box stock Privi 150 gr sp....chris3