berettaprofessor
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This month, Kansas enacted no-permit concealed carry, including concealed carry for those 21 or over at state universities, but each university was allowed to set their own rules for said carry. At my institution this includes:
a) The handgun must be secured in the holster with a strap or by other means of retention.
b) The holster must have sufficient tension or grip on the handgun to retain it in the holster even when subjected to unexpected jostling.
c) Handguns with an external safety must be carried with the safety in the "on" position.
d) Semiautomatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round of ammunition.
e) Revolvers must be carried with the hammer resting on an empty chamber.
Pocket carry in the usual holsters (Uncle Mike's, etc) is also verbotten and the holster must completely cover the trigger. Thus, most of my usual carry holsters and methods are not allowed. And I'm not sure how "c" works in guns that won't allow a safety to go on when unchambered.
In a recent Q&A led by the Campus Police Chief, I couldn't resist asking about the inability to carry with the hammer resting on a loaded chamber or to carry a semi "cocked and locked", referencing the post-1970 drop-safe revolver and semi designs.
His response was something along the lines of "I didn't know that revolvers and semis were drop-safe and there were several expert gun guys on the committee who made up these rules and the question never came up."
To his credit, the Chief promised to look into it. I've since sent him a respectful email with linked references to videos and articles demonstrating hammer-blocks and firing pin blocks. Gave him a link to the CA approved list as well for examples. Haven't heard anything back yet, but I gave it a shot.
I'm still shaking my head.
a) The handgun must be secured in the holster with a strap or by other means of retention.
b) The holster must have sufficient tension or grip on the handgun to retain it in the holster even when subjected to unexpected jostling.
c) Handguns with an external safety must be carried with the safety in the "on" position.
d) Semiautomatic handguns must be carried without a chambered round of ammunition.
e) Revolvers must be carried with the hammer resting on an empty chamber.
Pocket carry in the usual holsters (Uncle Mike's, etc) is also verbotten and the holster must completely cover the trigger. Thus, most of my usual carry holsters and methods are not allowed. And I'm not sure how "c" works in guns that won't allow a safety to go on when unchambered.
In a recent Q&A led by the Campus Police Chief, I couldn't resist asking about the inability to carry with the hammer resting on a loaded chamber or to carry a semi "cocked and locked", referencing the post-1970 drop-safe revolver and semi designs.
His response was something along the lines of "I didn't know that revolvers and semis were drop-safe and there were several expert gun guys on the committee who made up these rules and the question never came up."
To his credit, the Chief promised to look into it. I've since sent him a respectful email with linked references to videos and articles demonstrating hammer-blocks and firing pin blocks. Gave him a link to the CA approved list as well for examples. Haven't heard anything back yet, but I gave it a shot.
I'm still shaking my head.