And you know that because_____A 380 will not incapacitate an assailant. You use a 380 to distract an assailant until you can reach your 308, which will simply section him lengthwise.
Still not a single actual example to backup the naysayers.
And you know that because_____A 380 will not incapacitate an assailant. You use a 380 to distract an assailant until you can reach your 308, which will simply section him lengthwise.
If he won't roll down his window it would be more difficult to give him my wallet than a .380 slug.
Now they are leaving the 40 cal and going back to the 9mm because it was not the 9mm in the '86' shootout that was the problem but their training , and 9mm ammo is just as effective as the 40.
You obviously have not read all the posts in this thread because I have posted videos of 380 being shot through both windshield and car doors.When a bad guy(s) stops to rob you at the side of the road and exits his car to approach you on foot then you may have to shoot through a raised trunk lid, glass hatchback, raised engine hood, through the metal & glass structures of an open car door, or through windshield glass as you both maneuver on foot against each other. (Not to mention the difficulty in quickly drawing that .380 from your pocket while you're scooting & ducking from the bad guy.)
(A similar situation can happen in a Walmart parking lot.)
Anywhere you carry in or around cars you may have a situation where you have to shoot through automotive structures to hit a bad guy.
Yes and then there is the Peter Soulis incident where he hit a perp 22 times in the upper torso with his 40 cal Glock and 17 of the hits were center mass and the perp was still able to get into his car and dive away.Just recently maybe yesterday a disabled veteran went to the aid of a woman being attacked by 2 men in martin county florida. He shot both men once each in the chest with a 380 pistol. They are both in critical condition in the hospital. 380 worked fine this time!
Sure and he might even have an RPG along with his full auto AK.When a bad guy(s) stops to rob you at the side of the road and exits his car to approach you on foot then you may have to shoot through a raised trunk lid, glass hatchback, raised engine hood, through the metal & glass structures of an open car door, or through windshield glass as you both maneuver on foot against each other. (Not to mention the difficulty in quickly drawing that .380 from your pocket while you're scooting & ducking from the bad guy.)
(A similar situation can happen in a Walmart parking lot.)
Anywhere you carry in or around cars you may have a situation where you have to shoot through automotive structures to hit a bad guy.
Using larger diameter bullets or faster ones or ones with better construction is no guarantee to one shot stops. BUT they do tend to produce more one shot stops.Yes and then there is the Peter Soulis incident where he hit a perp 22 times in the upper torso with his 40 cal Glock and 17 of the hits were center mass and the perp was still able to get into his car and dive away.
So much for larger caliber causing quick incapacitation.
https://gunningtx.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/soulis-incident/
It does not matter how good the new 9mm bullets are, the FBI agents can only hit their intended target 25% of the time by their own data.
You obviously have not read all the posts in this thread…
Yeah I guess those tests are just a mirage.Suggest you see post #309.
Yeah I guess those tests are just a mirage.
Statistical theory is interesting, but does not always work in real life siduations, for example the "Soulis" incident where 22 hits to the torso with 17 in center mass with 40 cal XTP rounds.Unless I missed it, did you post a link to tests showing terminal performance in properly prepared and validated 10% ordnance gelatin after .380 bullets perforate automotive windshield glass? Did the bullets consistently penetrate at least 12" into the gelatin?
What I saw was a melon.
Surely the 40 cal XTP round easily exceeds every statistic you think is necessary for satisfactorly ending a bad siduation and still it failed miserably in this instance regardless of it's statistical superiority.
redbullitt said:Out of my p380 I would consider it effective enough for small carry.
succumbs to his wounds and expiring 4 minutes later seems a little different than diving away and besides it takes 17 rounds of 40 to stop this guy and you think some how 6 round of 380 would have????????Yes and then there is the Peter Soulis incident where he hit a perp 22 times in the upper torso with his 40 cal Glock and 17 of the hits were center mass and the perp was still able to get into his car and dive away.