Ever listen in on other people's gun conversations?

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I do. You never know what you might learn. I've never tried to enter the conversation though for multilple reasons. First, it is kind of rude and second, people sometimes don't like what I have to say. I overheard one teenager telling his friend that the 9mm was more powerful than the 357 magnum. When I stuck my nose in and told him it wasn't, he told me it is when it's fired through a Glock.:confused: I just didn't know where to begin after that.
 
One might measure "power" as it pertains to guns in how much damage it could do. Now, that teenager probably didn't realize it but he could very well have been correct. Though a .357 mag can deliver more ftlbs of force upon a target, it is usually restricted in the capacity of the weapon it is fired from. Now, one of the most common Glock 9mm pistols is the 17. The glock 17 usually holds 17 rounds in a mag but can be loaded with those crazy 32 rounders. The typical .357 revolver or semi holds 6-8 rounds. Assuming that you can get a kill shot from every single bullet in a mag or cylinder the 9mm glock has more "killing power/potential." Though the .357 can really kill the crap out of you and can probably do it more efficiently than a glock, there is a reason why hardly any police force carries a .357 wheel gun anymore. I actually know of none but I don't doubt that it is possible.

I am not trying to say that the 9mm cartridge is more powerful than the .357 cartridge. What I am saying is that the 9mm glock has potential to do more damage than a weapon chambered in .357.
 
I try not to listen in on anyone's conversation, but sometimes I can't get away.

Some of it is hard to listen to without feeling like I lost some smarts in the course of it. But, that phenomena isn't limited to conversations about guns either. Uninformed people and people who choose to remain ignorant are not excluded from the gun culture.
 
I've had my eyes roll so far back in my skull i think I saw myself as both an infant and a corpse before.

I was at my local gun store, browsing through some of their milsurp stuff, when I overhear one of the two guys who just entered the room tell the other that a pump action shotgun is the best weapon for home defense, because 9 times out of 10 the intruder will crap his pants and flee the second he hears the action being worked. :banghead:

Because we all know that owning a firearm for home defense, means simply brandishing it intimidatingly, and not having the resolve to use it. :scrutiny:
 
Well, there's a difference between not having the resolve to use one and not wanting to. I really don't want to have to shoot someone. Too much paperwork. If brandishing is all it takes to prevent a crime, sweet.
 
I do occasionally, at the local Sportsman's Warehouse, or pawn shop... but sometimes it's just so depressing... I don't need that kind of stress in my life. :p
 
Last week the wife and I were at Walmart in the sporting goods dept picking up some whiffle golf balls (we have a pet lovebird that LOVES them).

There was a young couple there buying a box of .380 (yeah, I was amazed they had any in stock) ... well there was this guy at the end of the counter and he started up a conversation with them. Asking them what kind of gun they had etc. Then he told them they need to go to a gun shop and get some Federal Hydroshocks for their .380 because "they're loaded more powerful than .357 magnum".

Wife looked at me and said "leave it alone" so I left it alone.
 
The one that came immediately to mind...

A couple years ago, before a particular election, I was standing at the gun counter at a large sporting goods retailer. An old man walks up and asks to see a Glock. Counter guy grabs one and hands it to the old feller. The man held it for a bit, looked it over, and tells the clerk...
"If you have two of 'em, I'll take two". Jaw_drop.gif
 
I listened to a guy who was showing a newbie how to shoot. He told the new guy that the most effective bullet for a one-shot kill was not a hollow point but a cast lead bullet (this as he had the guy shoot a Colt SAA). Said it makes a big hole and goes right through.

I listened to him on and off for about an hour, and had to get my hip waders from my car to go down to retrieve my targets.
 
Yup. Listen and be quiet. Laugh, shake your head and walk away! Let em believe what they wanna believe. Unless....

"I was 18 the last time I butted in to someone else's business and it almost killed me. Nope. I'm not gonna butt in. Nope. I'm not gonna do it. Oh, now why did he have to do that...." John Wayne - to Dog as Big Jake.
 
longdayjake said:
One might measure "power" as it pertains to guns in how much damage it could do. Now, that teenager probably didn't realize it but he could very well have been correct. Though a .357 mag can deliver more ftlbs of force upon a target, it is usually restricted in the capacity of the weapon it is fired from. Now, one of the most common Glock 9mm pistols is the 17. The glock 17 usually holds 17 rounds in a mag but can be loaded with those crazy 32 rounders. The typical .357 revolver or semi holds 6-8 rounds. Assuming that you can get a kill shot from every single bullet in a mag or cylinder the 9mm glock has more "killing power/potential." Though the .357 can really kill the crap out of you and can probably do it more efficiently than a glock, there is a reason why hardly any police force carries a .357 wheel gun anymore. I actually know of none but I don't doubt that it is possible.

I am not trying to say that the 9mm cartridge is more powerful than the .357 cartridge. What I am saying is that the 9mm glock has potential to do more damage than a weapon chambered in .357.
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As long as we're rationalizing, stats for the various wars indicate the more rounds a weapon is capable of firing the lower the hit percentage. So...the less powerful/more rounds vs. more powerful/less rounds would be a wash.
 
A few months ago I had to ride to a job site with several other coworkers. One had just sold an AR-15 to the other.

They were talking about what a great deer rifle it was, and then the current owner started talking about how he had been brandishing it to scare away noisy kids in the neighborhood.

Later, when I was alone with the other guy, we both agreed that maybe selling the AR-15 wasn't such a good idea...
 
To be fair though, I have heard conversations among guys that have far more knowledge than a lot of people here

- but only in a CMP store.:neener:
 
I've listened a little when I couldn't get away from it. But then I end up getting frustrated at the BS being spouted by old guys that have shot less rounds in their lifetime than I did in a week at the academy.

When I hear something so wrong it isn't funny, I walk away before my big mouth gets the best of me.
 
Nope. Evesdropping is rude.
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Yeah, but have you ever noticed that when a person is talking about guns, the volume of their voice is almost always inversely proportional to their firearm knowledge? Now some people just talk loudly, but I've yet to see a person who is spouting firearm misinformation use their inside voice.
 
Hard to listen to vendors blow smoke up customers' rear ends. I understand that it is the consumer's responsibility to educate themselves, but some of the lies I have heard are upsetting.... especially at gun shows.

Sorry dude, but your grey parkerized 1918 Colt 1911, with silver ".45" stamped barrel, is NOT original, nor is it worth $1200.
 
Sometimes the wife and I go into Cabella's on a busy Sunday afternoon and talk to each other in kinda loud voices about guns and we make up the most outrageous stuff we can think of before we start laughing...just to see if anyone will take the bait.

Last Sunday I was telling her about the Savage side-by-side-over-under shotgun I heard was coming out. 4 barrels of fun!

Hey...it's cheaper than going to the movies.
 
jimmyraythomason said:
Worked well for me once(and I am SO glad!) I do enjoy listening to knowledgable folks (preferably old folks) talk guns.
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That's because old people have had longer to perfect the lies and have more of them :D

I sometimes listen, but only butt in if what the person is saying is possibly dangerous. Like the time a guy was saying it was alright to load 45LC into his friends 1911. Not that it would fit, but a reminder to fire only what the gun is made to fire was in order.
 
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