10 yards good, 15 yards pretty good, 25 yards .....not so good.

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your best 10 yard group is 21 by 21 moa (wide by tall), your best 15 yard group is 17 by 25 moa, your best 25 yard group is 25 by 15 moa. moa - minute of angle

your 25 yard group is the smallest. nice shooting!

and it's "aim small hit small". I cringe when someone makes a big thing out of missing. missing is a bad idea to keep in your head.

how often do you dry-fire?

luck,

murf

p.s. target dimension reference: http://www.indecorous.com/bullseye/rings.html
I never dry fire practice. I go to the range one or two times a month, time restraints and stuff. Yes I need to practice more and the help and hints posted I appreciate from everybody.
 
That looks like very good shooting to me. I think we sometimes let the internet make us feel bad - it is rare, online, to find anyone who can't shoot minute-of-angle with any handgun he picks up - but I almost never see anyone shoot as well as the o.p. in real life.

Having said that, well, you aren't quite ready to take home the prize at a bullseye competition. With continued practice, though...

Lost my dad Aug 4th 2016 but he still inspires me, he shot competition in the army, back then it was one handed old school with a 1911 .45. Wish he was still around to point out bad habits that creep back in. I want to start focusing more at 25 yds because that is what they and he did, he won several times but I have no clue what his scores or group sizes would have been.

So I'm not trying to keep up with the Jones on the internet so much as I'm trying to make dad proud even still. Targets posted above were two hand hold.

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Lost my dad Aug 4th 2016 but he still inspires me, he shot competition in the army, back then it was one handed old school with a 1911 .45. Wish he was still around to point out bad habits that creep back in. I want to start focusing more at 25 yds because that is what they and he did, he won several times but I have no clue what his scores or group sizes would have been.

So I'm not trying to keep up with the Jones on the internet so much as I'm trying to make dad proud even still. Targets posted above were two hand hold.

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Hope my sons feel the same way you do about your dad when I'm long gone.
 
goal is bulls eye

If you mean Bullseye match shooting (aka Conventional Pistol aka Precision Pistol) then you must focus on shooting with one hand (unsupported).
Trigger control is very important (along with sight picture and everything else). Brian Zins, 12 time National Champion, would sit with an unloaded 1911 while watching TV and repeatedly dry fire the empty gun....not aiming at anything, just feeling the trigger. He knew exactly when the shot would break.
The targets shown earlier in this thread are good. Could be better? Sure but many shooters (maybe even most) cannot keep their shots on the paper at 25 yards.
If you are interested in Bullseye match shooting and you want to get better....register and shoot the matches. Match shooting is the best practice.
Pete
 
I really think that too much effort goes into shooting groups with a handgun.

The sights aren’t conducive to pin point accuracy and shooting slowly enough to be that accurate with a handgun kind of defeats the purpose of a handgun.

I do almost all of my handgun shooting at 25 yards and I never measure groups. I love shooting steel and for practice, I shoot at clay pigeons on the berm.

my handguns have XS dot sights on them, so groups are kind of off the table, but I have no problem banging steel.
I think too many people give up too easily and use the close range SD purpose as an excuse to not put in effort.
The purpose of a handgun is what you make it, sure many are satisfied with just SD, but many want more.
And even for SD I fail to see where the ability to shoot tight groups at distance as a handicap.
I've shot in informal bullseye leagues for years and find it helps a lot with my USPSA scores.
 
Knights Trail Park, Sarasota Parks Department, off Rustic Road, off Laurel Rd. Nice facility. Trap and Sporting Clays also. Wednesday thru Sunday. 9 to 5.
 
If you really want to get better, you really should try to work dry firing into your routine.
And if you're going to dry fire be honest with yourself only perfect practice makes perfect.
Focus on sight picture and holding it till the hammer has dropped.
Plenty of tricks to help with this e.g. balance a coin on the gun or get a cheap laser for visual cues
 
This thread made me realize that I rarely shoot off-hand further than 7 yards. During a range session yesterday, I shot my P365 off-hand at 20 yards just to see what I, and the P365, could do.

2" at 20 yards without a rest seems acceptable...

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