Not for me, I just want to be prepared as possible, If Cartel comes w/AK's and Kevlar not much I could do about that. But having a good plan for home invasion in a major Metropolis could never be a bad idea living by yourself and getting older. I got a 5 round 357. But after reading those pdf's. I know now how much better chance with the longer 45 and more rounds.
357 Magnum vs 45 ACP
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My vote is for .357 because I have one and I want to be on the winning team.
. Got it for BU though.ColeK
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I think I've posted to this thread before but I'm not going back thru 14 pages to find out.
I like, shoot, and carry pistols chambered for both of cartridges.
If I had to limit myself to just one pistol, it would be chambered for the .45.
Why? A .357 caliber bullet may get larger, but a .45 caliber bullet will not get smaller.
I like, shoot, and carry pistols chambered for both of cartridges.
If I had to limit myself to just one pistol, it would be chambered for the .45.
Why? A .357 caliber bullet may get larger, but a .45 caliber bullet will not get smaller.
in reality, there is no such measurement as "stopping power". in one situation, you could drop a man in his tracks, dead right there with one shot from a .380acp, and in the next situation, have a man run off after being shot with a 44 magnum. there are a TON of variables that apply. for all practical purposes, the 357 magnum, and 45 acp are pretty evenly matched in one shot stops in humans, with decent shot placement, and jhp rounds. it really boils down to do you like revolvers, or automatics.
I like the idea of having the extra 45 ammo in my mags. Also the ability to reload quicklly if necessary. Even if you are proficient with a speedloader, they are difficult to conceal, and bulky to wear on a normal basis. This really goes for any auto, I gave up revolvers last year. After having at least 1 for over 3 decades. I just didn't find any reason to carry around a 5 shot pistol anymore when there were so many "reliable" choices. I used to consider the revolver a good carry only because there was less chance of it having a problem. But with new technology I think we have licked that one.
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If[I carry my S&W 627 I have 8 rounds of .357 to your 8 rounds in a 1911. Hey I love .45s too but there is no comparing the two on power. .357 is undeniably more powerful as far as penetration. But has more recoil that you have to train to control.
You don't compare calibers. You compare bullet weight, design, velocity, and terminal effect, and see if somewhere in the caliber a combination exists that makes you warm and fuzzy.
I forgot to mention you have to factor in the gun, barrel length, and intended use.
What you can compare caliber wise is the variety of the above available, and, if it will do what you want.
If you like light bullets, .357.
If you like heavy bullets over 180 grains, the .357 isn't real good.
If you think the old Colt Standard, 260 grains at 950 fps is the Holy Grail,
then you want a .45 ACP.
If you like penetration, you need to tailor bullet design, weight and powder charge to create optimal wound channel with expansion, and penetration.
If you like high velocity light, both will do it, but easier with the 357.
I forgot to mention you have to factor in the gun, barrel length, and intended use. What you can compare caliber wise is the variety of the above available, and, if it will do what you want.
If you like light bullets, .357.
If you like heavy bullets over 180 grains, the .357 isn't real good.
If you think the old Colt Standard, 260 grains at 950 fps is the Holy Grail,
then you want a .45 ACP.
If you like penetration, you need to tailor bullet design, weight and powder charge to create optimal wound channel with expansion, and penetration.
If you like high velocity light, both will do it, but easier with the 357.
Two great calibers. You can hardly go wrong. Both have a great track record in actual shootings.
What kills me is that there are so many cool .357 revolvers out there. They keep calling my name, one at a time.
What kills me is that there are so many cool .357 revolvers out there. They keep calling my name, one at a time.
I like my Snubby 357, Taurus 605, It is fun to shoot outside with the proper ear protection. But inside (self defense) with no protection might cause some hearing loss. Mine sounds like a bomb going off , Im already sold on my 45 acp w 4" barrel for inside protection.
357 or 45
In my ccw class we had some "gun fight rules" one of them never use a gun without a 4 at the start of it's size.
but both do well (so web sites say) I like my P-90 with AGUILA 45 ACP IQ ammo they dont make any more but I still have 60 or so rounds. great round. my permit has the p-90, CZ 7.62x25 and 44 mag superblack hawk. I wouldn't want to be hit by any of them but at least the 45 won't hit 4 or 5 people in a row and it reloads faster.
In my ccw class we had some "gun fight rules" one of them never use a gun without a 4 at the start of it's size.
but both do well (so web sites say) I like my P-90 with AGUILA 45 ACP IQ ammo they dont make any more but I still have 60 or so rounds. great round. my permit has the p-90, CZ 7.62x25 and 44 mag superblack hawk. I wouldn't want to be hit by any of them but at least the 45 won't hit 4 or 5 people in a row and it reloads faster.gamestalker
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Without question the .357 mag is superior to the 45 ACP, but they really aren't two cartridges that deserve comparison, because they are so different in their intended purpose. It's kind of like comparing a 7mm mag. to a shotgun, they don't compare. However, because a .357 mag. has such a high velocity you have to consider possible collateral damage caused by bullets that have gone through the perp, doors, and walls. I carry a S&W 66 for S.D. and I hand load for it. The 125 gr. XTP is chronographing at 1600 fps, and the 158 gr. is doing 1300 fps. Consioder
The 45 ACP is doing good if it gets 900 fps, with averages around 700 to 800 fps. Yes, it is pushing a much heavier bullet, but at much slower velocities which can be a problem if you are in desparate need of penetration.
The 45 ACP is doing good if it gets 900 fps, with averages around 700 to 800 fps. Yes, it is pushing a much heavier bullet, but at much slower velocities which can be a problem if you are in desparate need of penetration.
When I learned the 357mag I purchased was 1500fps it kind of scared me ,i loaded it with 38+ until I got the 45acp, and probably for good reason,their was a shootout here yesterday and a lady was hit by a stray bullet from over 700 ft. away,it hit her in the jaw as she was sleeping in her bed.
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.357 OR .45?
Hmmmm....
I thought that's why God made a right AND a left hand.
Hmmmm....
I thought that's why God made a right AND a left hand.
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3 years and 3 mos later and it's still uncertain?
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I'm right handed, but had shoulder surgery and had to adjust my grip (two handed) w/45 so I could still aim good with my right ,but hold it so my good shoulder absorbed most of the recoil. After 100 rounds or so I tried just left handed, and was surprised with my results.
Sounds like your talking about letting loose with both weapons, one in each hand right? For a single home invader I think that would be the ultimate " shock and aww". They probably would not even have tine to think about the horrible mistake they just made.
Sounds like your talking about letting loose with both weapons, one in each hand right? For a single home invader I think that would be the ultimate " shock and aww". They probably would not even have tine to think about the horrible mistake they just made.
Not trying to be sarcastic. But a 22 will penetrate the skull with the right distance and placement. Having competed a little as a kid I like the head shot too. But nickles,kitchen matches,coons and boars don't shoot back,run,duck,bob or weave like a perp. In my opinion for real life situations head shots are for pro. Snipers with rifles. How would you even simulate this shot for practice with a pistol? But if you hit skeet and flying birds with a pistol. Hats off to you! I,m not even close to being in your league.
Date Night With the Wife
Ok hunny ... that's what you laid out for me to wear tonight
Hmmm ... what can I CCW around this shirt and pants :banghead:
My 380acp, 9mm, 45acp, 357mag, 44special
OK ... I pick you !!! Hope I don't need to use it I'd hate to ruin our date-night
Ok hunny ... that's what you laid out for me to wear tonight
Hmmm ... what can I CCW around this shirt and pants :banghead:
My 380acp, 9mm, 45acp, 357mag, 44special
OK ... I pick you !!! Hope I don't need to use it I'd hate to ruin our date-night
I believe it's safe to say you never hunted boar, hook up with the wrong one you'd wish they shot back.
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