David E
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Troy fixed sights, $110
Magpul sock and foregrip, $70
Ergo grip, $20
A2 flash hider, $7
So, in addition to the cost of the $250 gun, it's another $207......$457 total.
It does look cool, tho!
Troy fixed sights, $110
Magpul sock and foregrip, $70
Ergo grip, $20
A2 flash hider, $7
So, in addition to the cost of the $250 gun
The gun is a little over $600.
Over $600? I picked up my Sub Rifle for about $300......and it folds!
And doesn't have to fold to be compact!!!!And its almost all plastic, the sights suck, with limited options, and prone to firing out of battery.
Where as the JR is made out of metal, and gives AR options.
I shoot mine out to 100 quite often, more so at closer ranges.What's the effective range on a 9mm carbine?
And its almost all plastic, the sights suck, with limited options, and prone to firing out of battery.
Where as the JR is made out of metal, and gives AR options.
KelTec Subbies are going for in and around the $500 mark, seeing as how I've been wrong about the novelty wearing off, and folks are buying them.Ok, two things: folded, the JR is nowhere near as compact and discreet as the Keltec
Secondly. If you're going to have a gun that's the same size as an AR, costs the same as an AR, then why not have the advantages of a rifle cartridge? Instead of a 50-100 yd gun, you could have a 500 yd gun.
If you say "it's quieter and cheaper to shoot 9mm," fine....but it's cheaper and quieter still to shoot .22's
I'm not knocking the JR, it looks like a fine and fun gun, but for a $600 plinker, it should be.
right about that, but if I'm springing for one in that price range, it's going to be one of the best. Folding, plastic rifles need not apply. With the JR at just a smidge over 30" collapsed, I'd say that's discreet enough for me, as I don't hide my rifles in a hand bag.
Not in stock, they don't. They advertise that price, but have none. Finding one that can be had is nearing five bills. You're in JR territory now.CDNN Investments currently has the Kel-Tec, in either 9mm or .40, for $299
The ability to put a "long" gun in a briefcase or similar is cool. Not essential, but cool......and adds to the versatility of the gun.
If I had it in my head to get a very good pistol caliber carbine with little regard to cost, I'd certainly consider the JR. If I already owned a spare Glock, Para or 1911, I'd also consider the Mech-Tech unit.
I look at it this way: All things that can happen usually do. If I'm out and about town, going on a trip, or to the movie store and have my rifle on my person (in the vehicle) I'm going to have that rifle in a container that is appropriate to a rifle. I don't want Barney Fife to ask me during a "routine" traffic stop why I am carrying a folded rifle in a laptop/duffle/briefcase. Call me cautious, but I try to not give the LEO anything to get agitated about.At 16" folded it will fit into a typical BOB or a container in your vehicle that doesn't scream "rifle".
If I'm out and about and have my rifle (in the vehicle) I'm going to have that rifle in a container that is appropriate to a rifle. I don't want Barney Fife to ask me during a "routine" traffic stop why I am carrying a folded rifle in a laptop/duffle/briefcase.
Call me cautious, but I try to not give the LEO anything to get agitated about.
I got more guff over a hunting knife in a sheath in my console than the cased rifles under the back seat.
when the Sub2K came out and I saw a few folks arguing this same point, I wondered "why?"
If its a viable option for home defense, it doesn't need to be folded to hide it.
There are better options for vehicle carry that are more discreet, like a CCW pistol.
And now, for the prices they command, there are more robust, reliable, and accurate options available for purchase.
Not in stock, they don't. They advertise that price, but have none. Finding one that can be had is nearing five bills. You're in JR territory now.
I paid $300, CDNN still lists them for that.
Otherwise, a bit of shopping will turn one up for $400 or less.