I started another thread about a cop stopping someone and asking how much money they had on them. That thread took on a complete life of its own, brought me to a whole other question:
As the below links state, seizures of cash and property are increasingly accepted by our government and LE agencies without a trial, being found guilty of anything, or having probably cause, because the items themselves "imply" cause or suspicious activity. Even if you are found not to have a connection to any illegal activity it can be almost impossible to get your money, property, firearms back. So what do you HAVE to say while at a traffic stop, and at what point can you stop talking. When you decide you feel uncomfortable answering any other questions, how do you state this effectively to an LEO without getting beat to hell, yelled at, or arrested. An example would be a simple traffic stop where an officer asks how much cash you are carrying, or where you are going, or if you have any weapons in the car, etc..
By the same token, how should this be handled if an LEO comes to your home? An example would be, an LEO knocks on your door, to ask you about some noise, or perhaps if you saw a car accident outside and asks to come in, or asks to have a look around.
At any rate, I dont want to start LEO bashing, I personally have never had trouble with the police, but I have seen some situations where others have, and this latest confiscation trend, especially of cash and firearms scares the crap out of me.
http://www.fff.org/freedom/1093c.asp
http://www.dailylobo.com/media/stora....dailylobo.com
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13415622/
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1056139927409
http://www.the-dispatch.com/apps/pbc...0339/1005/news
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...6/ai_n11476614
As the below links state, seizures of cash and property are increasingly accepted by our government and LE agencies without a trial, being found guilty of anything, or having probably cause, because the items themselves "imply" cause or suspicious activity. Even if you are found not to have a connection to any illegal activity it can be almost impossible to get your money, property, firearms back. So what do you HAVE to say while at a traffic stop, and at what point can you stop talking. When you decide you feel uncomfortable answering any other questions, how do you state this effectively to an LEO without getting beat to hell, yelled at, or arrested. An example would be a simple traffic stop where an officer asks how much cash you are carrying, or where you are going, or if you have any weapons in the car, etc..
By the same token, how should this be handled if an LEO comes to your home? An example would be, an LEO knocks on your door, to ask you about some noise, or perhaps if you saw a car accident outside and asks to come in, or asks to have a look around.
At any rate, I dont want to start LEO bashing, I personally have never had trouble with the police, but I have seen some situations where others have, and this latest confiscation trend, especially of cash and firearms scares the crap out of me.
http://www.fff.org/freedom/1093c.asp
http://www.dailylobo.com/media/stora....dailylobo.com
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13415622/
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1056139927409
http://www.the-dispatch.com/apps/pbc...0339/1005/news
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...6/ai_n11476614