Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by swifteagle, Feb 13, 2008.
Hopefully the legislature will kill it... is the NRA working to fight this one?
It is meant to:
1) create 1000s of criminals and give the government more leverage over your life.
2) kill off the gun culture.
I'm sure we will see it here in Ca before too long. As well as NJ, NYC, Mass, and HI.
Anyway, IANAL, YMMV, other standard disclaimers apply, but I can't find anywhere where "manufacturer" is defined...meaning they could theoretically apply it to reloaders.
If I were in AZ, I'd be PO'd right now.
I wrote each of my congressional folks a congratulatory message on their signing of the 2nd amendment support brief. Got a real strong 2nd amendment support message back from Senator Chambliss. Both Georgia senators and all our representatives but two very liberal Democrats. For the life of me I can not understand why a black politician of any political persuasion would not support the 2nd amendment especially when so much gun control law in the past was specifically designed to suppress blacks RKBA. This was a key enough point it was written into the 14th amendment. IT IS IMPORTANT TO FREEDOM.
What Progressives in both parties hope to do is get this legislation passed in enough states so that the manufacturers cannot ignore it, and will have to comply or lose too much of the overall market. However if the arms makers make it clear that they won’t submit, and refuse to ship any product into those states that have enacted such laws, and include their law enforcement establishments, it wouldn’t be long before some changes were made. If they do go along with it, the Progressives will simply keep coming up with ridiculous requirements until the manufacturers are so burdened that they can’t make anything anymore. Sooner or later they will have to draw a line in the sand, and refuse to cross it.
the NRA can do only so much its up to gun owners to load on their legislaters.
this is also a good reason not to rely on factory ammo.get reloading equipment and casting set up.then you will know you will always have the ability to load your own.and stop this rapid fireing,take time to become excelent shooters.garenteed to hit you target.---:banghead:
It has been said that if we don't learn from history we are doomed to live it over and over again.... just look up all of the countries in history that have taken peoples gun rights away. Then look what happened to that country within 20 years after that happened.
Right now we are living history over again in many different ways. From the Roman Senate taking the power away from Ceaser, to Hitler taking the peoples right to protect themself away.
It will not pass in AZ.
Hey, it's been used against firearms holders enough times.
If any cases were ever passed, this would create a patchwork quilt of conflicting laws at the state level that would act as an unreasonable restraint on interstate commerce.
It doesn't meet federal guidelines on issues such as OSHA, the provision of serial numbers does not add to health and safety, demonstrably add value, reduce crime etc, would enforce State X's requirements on State Y's firearms manufacturer etc.
Just a thought......
A.) Private citizens (including ranchers) would not be able to carry a gun on their own property.
B.) Private armed security would have been effectively banned.
Y'all out there, keep them fools locked down to Phoenix and Tucson. That stuff cannot spread. You have a real nice state. Keep it that way.
(I'm wondering if you can get a bill proposal put out that would keep California Democrats and Greens from being able to move into Arizona. It would be equally stupid, unconstitutional, and wrong.)
I am furious. I moved here from California for many reasons, One of which: PRO GUN.
I have written a lengthy letter to my representatives clearly stating my opposition to HB2833. I included my reasons, and made it clear that I was not alone.
I urge all ARIZONA residents to write your elected officials. I understand that it has yet to pass in many other states, most of which anti gun, but if we assume it will get shot down with out any opposition, we could be in a world of hurt.
But then again with the kids today being the voters it will not be long before the younger generation's vote their life away. :banghead:
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