Budsgunshop.com shipping restrictions

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Budsgunshop,

You sirs, in my opinion, have caved in to the leftists who would disarm us. Instead of fearing them, why not conduct legitimate business and keep darned good records of your business in order to defeat them.

You can lose your FFL license in any state - even gun friendly ones, or have you missed the news a recent confiscations from gun dealers out west.


With regrets I will not be doing business with you,
Glenn B
 
After looking at Bud's Gunshop's pricing, and hearing so many positive testimonials, I think that if I lived in one of the states in question, I'd feel a bit disappointed myself. Given that, I hardly blame them for being cautious. I think the blame lies more with the politics involved.
 
Need to visit

Welcome to THR Rex and Bud.

To all THR members, if you feel the internet side is great, you all should visit the store if you ever get this way. It is by far one of the best I've been in and all the folks are great. I have been buying from Bud and going to his range since he had his first store in Paris and he always treated me and all the rest of his customers with respect and always made a fair deal. Thats on both the guns and safes. I even moved to another part of the state for work but will travel back to Paris to deal with them.

Bud, I will hopefully see you next week when the Microtech STG 556 I ordered come in. :D:D

Regards
Chuck Hirsch
 
I think the blame lies more with the politics involved.

What politics? By all accounts, the incident that caused Bud to cease sales to MD involved two licensed FFL's transferring guns between them, and then to a customer who was legally able to buy and possess the gun. From what we've been told, it was the individual who bought the gun who later used it to commit a crime, which somehow, some way, caused BOTH FFL's to lose their licenses.

Now, how that's even possible is anyone's guess. From the sound of it, the ATF just up and decided that they were going to steamroll the two dealers...which isn't exactly "political" so much as it is "criminal" and "unconstitutional".
 
Unfortunately, political = criminal and unconstitutional far too often these days.
 
As far as worrying about dealers being shady and trying to play games with your shipments to your customers - I can't imagine that that's a situation unique to dealers in MD, so why you've brought it up here is somewhat of a mystery.

You are absolutely right kingpin...and I in no way meant to insult MD dealers by implying it was a problem unique to MD. This discussion just reminded of a time, back when we did ship to MD, that it was a recurring problem that dealers claimed the shell casing was missing. It was a big problem for us because we had no proof the shell casing was in the box when we shipped it (although it was)....and the dealer could not, and we could not, produce a replacement shell casing and associated paperwork. It caused several MD customers to get aggravated with us....not getting their gun, delay in getting a replacement gun, etc......although we really had done nothing wrong. I think the deal I mentioned earlier where we would team up with receptive dealers spread out over the entire state (so every MD customer had a dealer within +/-100 miles) would work well for us. However, I did read the posts on MDshooters.com....and obviously that option does sit well with MD residents....they want the flood gates opened. It was also concerning to see that several MD residents who posted mentioned not buying from us even if we did start shipping to MD.....it appears we may have already burned some bridges beyond repair.
 
I just wanted to chime in and say welcome. I haven't bought from you yet but plan to in the coming months.

Thanks for the arm welcome JohnMcd. No problems shipping to FL....you guys are actually in our top 3 states for overall sales. I spent +20 years in the aviation business before getting into this gun business.....so Lakeland, FL is a familiar place.....spent lots of time, and money, at Sun-n-Fun !!
 
Unfortunately, political = criminal and unconstitutional far too often these days.

And much like another issue pointed out by kingpin earlier....this issue is also NOT exclusive to MD....but possibly a bit more prevalent.
 
Unfortunately, political = criminal and unconstitutional far too often these days.

Yep, that's what I was getting at. Couldn't think of a better word for the shenanigans.
 
However, I did read the posts on MDshooters.com....and obviously that option does sit well with MD residents....they want the flood gates opened.

I think you'll see that opinion was in the minority, distinctly. ;)

It was also concerning to see that several MD residents who posted mentioned not buying from us even if we did start shipping to MD.....

Perhaps there some sour grapes in there but that is also certainly a distinct minority. I'm one of the lucky few in Md that has 3 good dealers that I work with, but 2 of those are an hour away and another is 40 minutes away. I drive past about a half dozen closer shops because they jack their prices up to unconscionable levels.

I would continue to support my favorite three unless there was something that you could offer that they could not. That's nothing against Bud's, just a reflection on how I try to conduct my business, gun related or not. I believe in supporting my local merchants up to the point at which there is a service that they can't offer that a mass merchant or internet business can.

For my part, I believe that the competition from Bud's will be good for MD and will help especially those shooters who are not close enough to a decent shop to have the selection or fair pricing that those of us in the metro area are able to enjoy.

My offer stands to help with the names of some good FFLs that you might want to work with in MD.
 
Budsgunshop.com,

After looking over your site, I'm very interested in doing business with you.

I live in Alaska and there isn't anything in your shop that you couldn't ship up here. :D

One question at the risk of high-jacking the thread if I may.

Why do you not stock Tikka rifles?
 
I would continue to support my favorite three unless there was something that you could offer that they could not.

Completely understandable and very respectable Norton. My partner, Bud, also operates a retail store location in Paris, KY.....so I understand how valuable of an asset customer loyalty is to a small local operation.
 
I just made my second gun purchase from Bud's on Monday. I ordered a Beretta Mini Cougar 9mm from their used selection. I wasn't really in the market but the price was too good to pass up. The only complaint I had with my last order was the delivery time but I placed this order Monday just after lunch and rec'd an email Tuesday at 1:53 letting me know that the gun had been shipped so I should have it by Friday. I can't complain about that. Now I'll just have to wait and see if it looks as good as described, I'll post again in this thread after it gets here.
 
Justin - shipping to MD wouldn't make his company or business practices any less legitimate - in fact, he'd probably make a pretty nice profit, considering how many of us there are who would love to take advantage of their prices.

And for the record, the level of "hassle" in shipping guns to MD is nowhere near the level of "hassle" one has to deal with when shipping guns to places like California, which Bud's still does. So that part of your statement doesn't fly.
 
I'm not speaking directly about JUST MD. I'm refering to all the other states you have to hassle with. With regards to shipping to Cali, he may have certain weapons he buys that are CALI legal to make the process less of a headache.
 
Forgive me, I must have msunderstood since a good part of this thread was in reference to MD specific issues.

That said, every area of the country has some little idiosyncracy when it comes to what is and is not allowed when it comes to shipping and recieving firearms - if a business owner wasn't able or willing to deal with that on a day-to-day basis, I fear for how long their business would actually last.

And like I said, MD is really not that complicated as far as what rules must be followed - certainly much less hassle than Cali, or most parts of NY. Doesn't make much sense to exclude folks like us but not other areas.

Either way, I'm curious (like I'm sure many others here are) to hear what Rex has come up with in regards to his talks with Bud about the no-sell situation. Hopefully he comes back soon to fill us all in.
 
I'd just like to jump on the bandwagon here, and say that budsgunshop.com is a great place to buy your firearms.

I bought my HK45 from them, and couldn't have been happier with how smoothly everything went (not to mention the very significant amount of money I saved by buying from them). So if you live within their shipping areas, I highly suggest looking into purchasing your firearms from them!

Also, I agree with Camacho, I'd be interested in buying a Saiga 12 at some point from you guys!
 
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