Glock Imperfection

[legion3]

"Hi, everyone! I've been thinking about buying my first ..."
"Glock."
"... handgun, and I'm not sure if I ..."
"Glock."
":... should get a ..."
"Glock.
"... revolver or maybe a ..."
"Glock."
"...shotgun would make more ..."
"Glockglockglockglockglockglock."
...sense ..."
"Glock."

See the Duck of Doubt can say something factual and useful. Sounds like a great gun conversation to me.

Loose you nickle plated sissy pistols and get a Glock!

 

[BADUNAME4]

The best Glocks are made by Kahr anyway so who cares.

 

[GLOOB]

Kahr?? yeah right. Only if you consider 6-inch groups at 50 feet a good thing.

 

[sohcgt2]

sohcgt2: "I am curious what Glock did to so turn you against them duke. "

It ... is .. alive.

It's a striker-fired plastic dog-turd. Beyond that, it's fine. So is a Hi-Point.

I guess this means you have no reason other than you just don't like Glock. Clearly they are firearms, at least according to BATF and not amusements or novelties, the same is true of Hi-Point products. I have heard Glock refered to as combat Tupperware, presumably because while not especially pretty, they tend to function as designed with highest efficiency.

what will you compare them to next I wonder?

 

[GLOOB]

Hi Points are considered reliable, even though the are simple blowback, relying on heavy slide mass.

I like the fact that you CAN compare a Glock to a Hi Point. In addition to a heavy slide, they have a locked breech and are precision made. Can't get any better than that. The heavy slide and soft recoil spring are one thing that makes a Glock so durable, reliable, and soft-recoiling.

Striker fired? No external safety? Yeah, you can't play "Dirty Harry" with a Glock. That's also part of the appeal for me.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

I guess I've been too indirect. No, I don't care for the Glock as a matter of engineering or of aesthetics, but that isn't why I dislike them so much. I dislike them most of all because of the attitude of many of their owners. Reason 7 of Post 5 was sincere. Yeah, it was a laugh line, but it was also sincere. Glock owners could have their gun and, so long as I wasn't too nearby, they'd have my blessing; better a Glock than a Jiminez. But incredibly, they appear to believe, and regularly insist, that they're not merely acceptable guns (which is a debatable point) but actually good guns. It's like those cheesy television ads for McDonald's or Burger King from twenty-five to thirty years ago. Not content to sell the speed and convenience of their product delivery, they actually tried to convince people that their crap sandwiches tasted good. And that eventually begins to grate on the sensibilities of some of us. I mean, I enjoy an occasional Egg McMuffin or Big Fish on the road, but I don't kid myself into believing they are actually a superior sandwich. They're an acceptable substitute for a real meal, accepted for their speed and for their convenience of delivery. Similarly with Glocks. They really aren't all that bad. But it gets old, hearing day and night how a cheap plastic gun is good. If it were made in Brazil, it would be thrashed all over these boards. But no -- it's made in Fuehrercountry, so it must be magical plastic.

 

[Cliff123]

So Duke: I own a Glock 26. Why isn't it a good gun?

Threads like these will never really change any minds. But the banter is interesting.

 

[sohcgt2]

Similarly with Glocks. They really aren't all that bad. But it gets old, hearing day and night how a cheap plastic gun is good. If it were made in Brazil, it would be thrashed all over these boards. But no -- it's made in Fuehrercountry, so it must be magical plastic.

I think I get it now. It is not American made and therefor inferior. Engineers worldwide will tout the superiority of polymers so its not the "plastic" thing. "Fuehrercountry" is false because Austria and Germany are as different as the United States of America and Mexico. So Duke the end result is American guns good, Imported guns bad (except Hi-Point).

 

[Dan Crocker]

Hi-Points are made right here in America. My Glock read this thread and stopped working. Thanks jerks.

 

[legion3]

But it gets old, hearing day and night how a cheap plastic gun is good.

Well Glocks are not good their Great! As tony the tiger would say.
So this cheap plastic gun you refer to must be some other product. Its clearly not a Glock. I would suggest an American made product.

And you sir, need therapy, if the fact that an Austrian made gun and its supporters get under your skin because they are happy with both the product and its quality.

McDonalds and Burger King is beneath you It must be difficult to be so superior




BTW I doubt American workers could make an American flag today properly so don't get so stuck on Made in America because the phrase and the quality it entails does not have the same ring it once had.

 

[23Glock]

it's made in Fuehrercountry

Interesting. At least the second time I've seen you make a crass, intolerant and inane statement about Germany. Unless you’re a WWII vet I would check that sh*t at the door lest this thread devolves into a discussion about the 1st Amendment. I now understand your distaste for Glock derives not from any failing of the weapon, but from your obvious prejudice against Germany. This makes your opinion instantly baseless and you lack all credibility. I predict you must hate Audi, BMW, etc... *yawn*

IBTL.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

23Glock: "At least the second time I've seen you make a crass, intolerant and inane statement about Germany."

Neither Glocks nor Herr Schickelgruber were made in Germany.

 

[Ash]

I have nothing against Glock, but many Glock owners are royal pains in the rear. Things like "get rid of that nickel-plated sissy pistol and get a Glock," while indeed quoting US Marshals, is none-the-less reflective of many (though by no means all) Glock owners.

The level of brand slavery with Glock is unmatched. Glocks are fine pistols but they are absolutely unforgiving to poor handling. Safety on the trigger is no safety at all and the hype DOES make novices gravitate to a pistol that is not suitable for them. It is a pistol better suited to experienced handlers.

That said, beyond the fact I am one of those who does not like striker-fired polymers, I have nothing against a Glock, XD, Steyr, or CZ-100. They're not for me.

But, you see, the Glock, and rapidly joining it the XD, has owners that are not pleasant to be around. They can act immature. Granted, this has led to Glock-haters who can act the same way. Fair's fair.

Yet there are those who almost certainly jumped up and cheered when Tommy Lee Jones' character looked at the stainless Taurus and uttered those lines about the nickel-plated sissy pistol. I am sure there are those who have it painted on their walls at home. And some of them post on boards like this.

 

[JohnBT]

"if the fact that an Austrian made gun and its supporters get under your skin because they are happy with both the product and its quality. "

No, I only get really irritated when those bicycle-riding Glock owners knock on my front door on Saturday morning and want me to talk about whether I've discovered the joy of Glocking and the benefits of spreading the word to the unwashed.

JT no grok Glock.

About Subarus. You really need a Subaru mechanic and/or Subaru-specific tools for some of what should be simple repairs. I had an '86 GL wagon (w/dual-range 5-speed, armored exhaust, adjustable rear shocks, etc.) for 14 years and an '02 Forester-S for 5 years.

It's sad how little it takes in the way of criticism to get a bunch of Glock owners into a defensive corner.

John

P.S. - forgot something... "If you are stupid, don't buy a Glock." The problem here is that stupid people frequently don't know they're stupid. Designers need to consider this group when putting the parking brake on the accelerator. I love that phrase btw.

 

[chuckusaret]

Chuck did you say it blew up ?

Yes, gunsmiths (2) blamed it on ammo failure. I don't agree. Off the shelf ammo, not likely. I bought the gun from a private owner that stated he had fired it a 100 or so times. In any case I wrote it off as a lesson learned. Note: The remaining 150 rounds, of the 250 round case, were fired in two other guns without a problem. Ammo was a case purchase of Winchester 9MM from Wal Mart.

 

[3pairs12]

It's like a Subaru owner bragging to a Ferrari owner

Comparing a Beretta and Glock is far different than comparing a Subaru to a Ferrari. Lets see they are priced reasonably close to each other, they are about the same dependability wise, with a slight edge going to Glock in my expierence, yes I have owned both and still have the Glock. I would think it's more like comparing a Toyota to a Nissan. Niether are top of the food chain by any stretch but both do the job they were designed to do.

 

[bratch]

P.S. - forgot something... "If you are stupid, don't buy a Glock." The problem here is that stupid people frequently don't know they're stupid.

This is God's way of cleaning up the gene pool.

 

[jbkebert]

The only sporting goods owners that are as defensive as Glock owners if Mathews bow owners. You make one comment on how you do not care for there products and look out

Yes Glocks are decent handguns I personally dont think they are the best but thats my .02. My lord imagine the argument if I said I don't like Coors I prefer Bud. Take it easy you can worship your plastic I'll just stick to a different religion.

 

[legion3]

Neither Glocks nor Herr Schickelgruber were made in Germany.

Again the duck speaks accurately... that's two posts

No, I only get really irritated when those bicycle-riding Glock owners knock on my front door on Saturday morning and want me to talk about whether I've discovered the joy of Glocking and the benefits of spreading the word to the unwashed.

That would be worth opening the door to! A worthy missionary for sure.

But, you see, the Glock, and rapidly joining it the XD, has owners that are not pleasant to be around.

Not true glock owners are very pleasant to be around. XD owners can be also provided they are not the unwashed when it comes to Glock. Heck even archaic 1911 owners can be pleasent to be around...occasionally

Yet there are those who almost certainly jumped up and cheered when Tommy Lee Jones' character looked at the stainless Taurus and uttered those lines about the nickel-plated sissy pistol. I am sure there are those who have it painted on their walls at home. And some of them post on boards like this.

Yep!

 

[3pairs12]

Mathews guys are definitely hooke on the Kool aid.

Again the duck speaks accurately... that's two posts

Two? What on this page?

 

[reb27]

Hey! A disagreement on the internet. You don't see that every day!

I'll keep shooting my GLOCKS, S&Ws, 1911s, etc, as long as they work. And so far, there hasn't been too many problems with any of them...

 

[JohnBT]

Would this make a great Glock ad or what?

 

[KBintheSLC]

Would this make a great Glock ad or what?

I have a novel idea... how about if all you Glock haters out there merely refrain from buying Glocks. It is your right to do so.

I think we can all agree that Glocks are not for everyone... no particular gun is perfect for everyone. But the fact that y'all get offensive and aggressive over us liking them just exposes your morbidly delicate ego's.

Blah blah blah... "its not my choice, so it must be a bad choice".

I assure all of you, I have no other reason to like my Glocks other than that they work very well all of the time. If any of them ever failed me, I would be the first to tell you. Glock does not pay me to post props on THR.

 

[JohnBT]

"I have a novel idea... how about if all you Glock haters..."

Glock haters? Are you reading the same thread as the rest of us?

I am typing this very slowly...still with me... we're just trying to have a good time. Jeez, we didn't call your dog ugly did we?

Okay group, now for tomorrow's topic we have a choice:

9 vs. 45?

or

Which pepper spray for seasoning early summer roadkill?


I still can't get over how sensitive many Glock owners are. They add new meaning to the word touchy. Lighten up, it's just the internet.

John

 

[The Ground Truth]

This thread needs to end lol