Got pulled over by LEO tonight and I had 3 pistols CC'd

[Dookie]

glad it worked out for you, sounds like the officer was in a good mood. I got three tickets this year, 2 were for speeding, one I was actually speeding, the other I was not.

Still a good idea to make sure your pistol is secure, it would be bad to have to slide under your brake pedal.

And slow down

 

[chris in va]

I had to learn to walk again between 11-13 after we were rear ended...I have had 3 major surgurys on my spind... all of which envoled metal...

The truth comes out.

I had a discussion with a 'semi-anti' on another board about firearms. He feels gun control is a good thing and firearms should be highly restricted blah blah. Come to find out a close relative comitted suicide when he was a kid and now wants to see various laws enacted.

Sounds like the same situation.

 

[TAB]

So its alot to ask of people to fallow the laws that are on the books now?

 

[Blacksmoke]

Let's see. How could you have f#^$@d up more. I know, when the officer approached the driver's side you could have been twirling your guns- one in each hand .

Please take his advice to heart!

 

[luft97]

So its alot to ask of people to fallow the laws that are on the books now?

Excuse me sir,

Your spelling and grammar should be illegal. It hurts. Follow me?

 

[ChCx2744]

hahahahaha luft97

Anyways...17 MPH over is pretty bad on a residential/office complex. On the interstate 17 MPH over is pretty normal around here in Georgia. I would never write a citation for "17 over." No officer (where I am) is going to be able to rationalize that in court, unless they still have the reading on thier state certified/calibrated (date, time, calibrating technician, authorizing service date, etc) speed detection device (laser, radar, patrol car, etc). Usually you have to pace the subject for the same amount of time that you observed them "speeding" in order to write a valid speeding ticket. Also, writing a speeding citation for exactly 17 MPH over? Most officers (from advice given to me by far superior ranking/veteran officers) do not write that offset/odd number speed. It is better to use solid speeds by denominations of 10; SOMETIMES 5/15's. So if the speed limit (in your case) was 45 MPH, the more understandable and "judge friendly" offense would have been 60 in a 45. But all that turd aside...I don't even like writing speeding tickets...PSST PSST: You never heard this from me but: Speeding tickets and D.U.I.'s are some of the most dangerous and worst traffic offenses in existence! BUT THEY ARE ALSO A COUPLE OF THE EASIEST ONES TO FIGHT AND DISMISS IN COURT! :banghead:

I ask myself everyday..."Where has the system gone..? The politics..tsk tsk...#*%$#@& #@%$!!!!!"

 

[Griz44]

This is the kinda of unthinking guy that causes the rest of the drivers to be angry. Those who have condemned this selfish jerk have one more for the lynch mob. A little over the limit, OK, not a good thing but OK for passing when needed. Passing in a yellow zone, not OK. Just shows a basic lack of respect for the rest of the traveling public. This type of driver always causes accidents that they do not personally get any sheet metal damage from.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

their momma told em they were special

 

[JWarren]

Shocker, The High Road turning into The Holier Than Thou Road.

Probably no shocker here, but I am with Tab on this one.


Friday night, I took my wife and a friend's daughter out to eat. On the way back from the resturant, I had the cruise set on 60 on an open rural highway.

Some car comes up on me flying and then proceeds to tailgate me so close that I could not see his headlights in my mirrors. He stays there while traffic is coming. However, when there is a break in traffic, he doesn't take the opportunity to pass me. That annoys me. That means that he just chooses to remain behind me driving in such a manner and endangering me, my wife, and a 7 year old girl.

I slow down to 45mph and he still doesn't pass me. I speed back up to 55mph and he speeds back up with me. I can't pull over due to the nature of the shoulder of the road. I tap my brakes a couple times. Nothing.

I decide that I am not going to deal with this anymore. I just let off the gas completely in order to try to force him to pass me. As I get down to 25mph, I suspect that he can see me calling 911 on my cell phone through the rear view mirror.

Oddly enough, he takes the hint and doesn't pass me, but rather backs off to a safe distance. I then proceed to speed back up to 55mph and set the cruise there. The jackass turns off into a subdivision about 4 miles later.


Sorry, but what people do on the roads affect others. I don't necessarily wish that the OP got a ticket, but I DO hope that he chooses to change his ways. One day driving like that may well get someone killed.



EDIT:

Before someone calls me "Holier than Thou, let me say this:

I've got a history of speeding tickets in the double digits. I was an idiot who endangered all around me when I was younger. I haven't got a ticket in many years now. After watching a lot of friends and neighbors get buried, I started really thinking about what I was doing. Speeding like that doesn't save you very much time at all, but it cost a lot.

Holier than Thou? I don't think so. More responsible and respectful of innocents? You bet.



-- John

 

[Andy-Y]

I was an idiot who endangered all around me when I was younger. I haven't got a ticket in many years now. After watching a lot of friends and neighbors get buried, I started really thinking about what I was doing.

+1 on that. I used to drive WAY too fast. But after putting 4 friends in the ground in a matter of months. I realized that life is fickle and cars can kill very easily.

I won't comment on the OP getting a ticket or not, but just settle down on those roads. You might thank yourself later.

 

[Cannonball888]

No where in his OP does Cannonball say he told the LEO he had a CCW.
I think he just got a nice cop ,on a good night, who was having some warm feelings about making it home.
Guns played no part in Cannonball's drama.
We win some,we lose some.

You are corrrect, sir. The LEO didn't know I had a CWP. I wasn't legally required to tell him and it isn't linked to the DMV system like in some states. I really believe he let me go because of my clean record and possibly because of my bumper stickers. I do speed because I have a 45 mile commute home, but I am a very safe driver as I have never been in an accident in my 30 years of driving. Also, in no way would I ever go 62 MPH in a residential area zoned for 45 MPH. This road was a part of highway 441 which I have used for 5 years. I know every foot of it. The reason a small part of it was zoned for 45 MPH is because of a lonely gas station and a turn off to a county road.

 

[Bailey Guns]

I've stopped people before fully intending to hang paper on 'em and telling them as much.

When I returned to their car, smiled and said, "Slow down (or whatever) and have a nice day", you could see the shock and happy surprise on their faces.

What they didn't know was that I chose not to write the ticket because of a call that was just dispatched that I needed to handle or to cover another officer...something more important than writing a traffic ticket. But they felt good about the encounter and the outcome.

So many of you are entirely too quick to condemn the officer for "not doing his job" and really don't seem to consider other possibilities.

And I'm certain all you guys who are complaining the officer didn't write the ticket always insisted an officer write you a ticket instead of giving you just a warning. Gee...in my 15 years in police work, that happened a lot.

 

[RP88]

when I got pulled over going 85 in a 65, at least I was on interstate, going in a straight line, not passing people left and right, you should be ashamed of yourself, etc. etc. etc.

just keep in mind that hitting someone right will get you hit with felony negligence and you'll have to kiss your gun rights goodbye.

 

[12-34hom]

What described is called " Officer discretion". Some officers will write citations for 5 + miles over - some are mandated by policy for whatever agency they work for.

I don't even bother writing a cite with a speed less than 10 mph over the legal limit. That's not to say you won't get stopped and get a written warning. Or if other indicators are observed might lead to DUI or other offences.

95% OF FOLKS EXCEED POSTED LIMITS. That's been my experience with it.

12-34hom.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

i used to drive like heck. pulled 12 months county for my last escapade and didn't have a license for 17 years. i drive much differently now 8 years one ticket for a red light that i coulda avoided if i hadnt been too close to the 18 wheeler and coulda seen the light. its was gods grace i never killed anyone

 

[Flagal]

Wow! This poor guy was just telling you all a story and it turned into a pissing match. Who cares?

There always seems to arguing on this site. Let's all be happy firearm owners.

Just like a woman to come in here when new and sound off.

Where are all the women anyway?

 

[Doggy Daddy]

Common things I've read here include:
More training is always good,
Follow the four rules without fail,
Cars are much more dangerous than guns.

Yet how many of the people who live by the ideas above would never consider taking an advanced driving class, and believe they can cut corners on following the laws and safe practices of driving a car?

You don't become an expert driver just by living through puberty and taking a driving course in high school that's taught by a bored basketball coach.

 

[camslam]

Sorry for the non-gun related follow up, but I didn't want to leave TAB wondering.

Tab wrote:

which studys are those? All of the studys I've seen say people exceeding the speed limit is one of the major contributing factors to accidents...

Do a simple google search and plenty of data shows up. Here are a couple of links.

http://www.motorists.org/speedlimits/

Q. Isn't slower always safer?
A. No, federal and state studies have consistently shown that the drivers most likely to get into accidents in traffic are those traveling significantly below the average speed. According to an Institute of Transportation Engineers Study, those driving 10 mph slower than the prevailing speed are six times as likely to be involved in an accident. That means that if the average speed on an interstate is 70 mph, the person traveling at 60 mph is far more likely to be involved in an accident than someone going 70 or even 80 mph.

Q. Don't higher speed limits cause more accidents and traffic fatalities?
A. No, if a speed limit is raised to actually reflect real travel speeds, the new higher limit will make the roads safer. When the majority of traffic is traveling at the same speed, traffic flow improves, and there are fewer accidents. Speed alone is rarely the cause of accidents. Differences in speed are the main problem. Reasonable speed limits help traffic to flow at a safer, more uniform pace.

Q. Aren't most traffic accidents caused by speeding?
A. No, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) claims that 30 percent of all fatal accidents are "speed related," but even this is misleading. This means that in less than a third of the cases, one of the drivers involved in the accident was "assumed" to be exceeding the posted limit. It does not mean that speeding caused the accident. Research conducted by the Florida Department of Transportation showed that the percentage of accidents actually caused by speeding is very low, 2.2 percent.

Q. Aren't our roads more dangerous than ever before?
A. No, our nation's fatality rate (deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled) is the lowest it has ever been. The total number of fatalities has also stayed relatively stable for several years. They do occasionally increase, but given that our population and the distance the average person drives are also increasing, this is not surprising, nor is it cause for alarm.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2442.asp - This one has an actual study you can download at the bottom of the page.

"Everybody expects that when you increase the speed limit, injuries and the severity of injuries are going to increase, but that hasn't happened on the interstate highway system in Indiana," lead researcher Fred Mannering said in a statement.

As usual, since the media always tell us how unsafe speeding is, the majority of people just go along with it, disregarding the facts.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, kind of sounds like what happens with guns, the 2nd amendment, and gun control. Oops, I guess this post was gun related.

 

[TAB]

I said studys... how did they come up with those answers?

 

[camslam]

Wow. Try reading the post.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2442.asp - This one has an actual study you can download at the bottom of the page.

I have better things to do than ferret out studies on traffic and speed in this great country of ours. I'll just point you in the right direction and let you put what you want into it.

Fact is, since the national speed limit was raised to 65 and other states have gone higher, it has not increased the number of accidents. Apparently based on what I have recently read, the severity didn't increase either.

Enjoy.

 

[TAB]

did you read the study? all it said was they did not see a increase in accidents from raising IN max speed to 70 mph... thats not what we are talking about here.

 

[KelVarnson]

I'm not pissed off that he was going 62 in a 45... I'm pissed off becuase an officers of the law, pulled him over. Then did not enforce the laws for which they have sworn to uphold.

Actually, the officer, by the mere act of pulling the OP over, was enforcing the law(s). He stopped the OP from doing the illegal things he was doing. Anything after that is just revenue enhancement.

 

[Avenger]

What KelVarnson said. Do you really want the police to be required to write a ticket for EACH AND EVERY SINGLE THING YOU DO THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW? Because you, the taxpayer, will be footing the bill for the new, very much larger forms.....one way or another.

I think the only way a person could actually get through a day without breaking SOME law is to lie quietly on the floor in the basement. And even that might be loitering.

 

[HOME DEPOT GEORGE]

One thing I can tell you about my area of florida. If you are driving on I95,528,520 or the florida turnpike and aren't doing at least 10 to 15 mph over the limit you will probably get run off the road. To the original poster-was it a sheriff, local cop or trooper that pulled you over? I know the Brevard county sheriffs in my area are gun friendly but the cocoa(little vietnam) police are very uptite if you tell them you are carrying because of the sh+t they deal with regularly.

 

[M203Sniper]