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Doug.38PR

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I was just sitting next to a lady to my right at a conference table working on some paperwork and had my windbreaker on (with my Colt .38 Official Police in a RIGHT hand shoulder holster on the left side). I lean across the table to write something down and she says (in a humorous tone) "Okay, what are you packing."
"packing?"
She nods and puts makes a hand motion reaching for a gun on her left side.
"a gun?"
she nodded and said "you've got something showing/bulging through your coat"
:eek:
"oh, no! That's my cell phone."
"okay hahaha"
and instantly started turing attention backto what we were doing.
I did in fact have the gun on....but what she saw imprinted through the side of my windbreaker wasn't a gun....it was the double speedloader pouches. I went back to my hotel room later to see what she saw and leaned forward allowing the windbreaker to stretch and I could BARELY see something imprinting just under my armpit
I didn't show her my "cell phone" (why wouldn't I do that? she might think)
I don't know if she bought it (I kind of doubt it, it was a dumb lie and, to me, an obvious evasion.)
My friend was standing in the room with us working on something else (he knows I carry) and just said after we got outside, "why didn't you just tell her?"
I said I don't want other people to know I carry. I don't know how she will respond to it, if she will use it against me, if she will tell anyone else and get everyone else (including my supervisor) nervous and start worrying about where and when I am carrying. :eek: :rolleyes:
 
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I would consider "what are you packing?" a positive response. As long as you weren't in danger of violating your company's regulations, I would have told her what you carry.


It could have been much worse, she could have shrieked "OH MY GAWD HE'S GOT A GUUUUN!!!"
 
well, the last time I told someone on the job that I didn't really know that I carried a gun, it scared them, they used it against me later and told everyone about it and it worried them and eventually told me they didn't want me carrying on the job.

I don't want that to happen again.
 
seems like you had the best responce for the situation. though now id consider moving the speedloaders and clip your phone there make it obvious next time u answer a call haha
 
Now that you have said that....I find that the cell phone fits and stays in place great in one of my velcrow shut speedloader pouches.

Next time I see this girl I will have it there and make it a point to whip it out.

thanks for the tip
 
I would consider "what are you packing?" a positive response. As long as you weren't in danger of violating your company's regulations, I would have told her what you carry.
I agree. That is the response of someone who is generaly interested and not afraid of guns.

Unless her body language said she was scared I dont see the problem personally.
 
I would consider "what are you packing?" a positive response. As long as you weren't in danger of violating your company's regulations, I would have told her what you carry.


I agree. That is the response of someone who is generaly interested and not afraid of guns.

Unless her body language said she was scared I dont see the problem personally

Lupinus, Buck00. I agree. You are PROBABLY right. I considered it a positive reaction too when it happened. There are no company "regulations" regarding guns. We are independent contractors working for a single broker. If he hears someone is carrying a gun, it might make him nervous and he might give me a call and insist I not carry, etc.

She did seem enthusiasitc at the thought of my carrying a gun. It probably would have been okay. But I have learned to be VERY selective about who I let in on my CCW. I have only known this lady about a week. She might be smiling to my face to not create a scene, but be relieved when she walks out of the room getting away from "the guy with the gun." Also, if I tick her off in the future, she might decide to tell people about the gun (especially the man we work for) just for spite.

This is exactly what happened to the last person I trustingly told that I carried. I didn't know him all that well and the first question out of his mouth after I showed him was "have you ever shot anyone" (he was serious). A few months later he told his partners and my supervisor and they were all upset and nervous and told me not to carry around them or anyone they are doing business with.
 
I see your concern, and considering what happened last time I'd probably feel the same way. However consider that if she did really make you and know what speedloaders are, you just lied to her face, not good for business either. Maybe she carries too and wanted to do a "I'll show you mine if you show me yours". haha.
Not sure how I would have responded. Maybe say "Why do you want to know" with a grin to try to gauge her opinion of CCW from her response.
 
Now you know you may need a new windbreaker. I was in an airport a few months ago and asked the gentleman sitting next to me if he was an air marshall. We had been talking a little about me being on active duty and him having retired at 20. I asked him if he was a marshall and he was wondering why I would ask that question. His gun was obvious if you knew what to look for. Turns out he was a fed and that was the only suit he owned from his pre fed days and it was not cut as loose as his others. He said he was going to stop wearing that suit until it was altered.
 
I sat one row behind some politico on the NY-DC shuttle once. His bodyguard was pretty obviously a young Marine, either ex- or on loan, was sitting in the aisle seat, wearing a very poorly fit sport jacket. Getting up and down, I could not only see that he was carrying, but I was pretty sure it was a Beretta. I asked him as we were getting off why they wouldn't even pop for a Sig if he was on protective detail, maybe a new jacket... the guy actually blushed.
 
don't show and tell

I don't carry, it's impossible here in California (almost)

But one day at lunch I was talking guns with a fellow coworker who enjoyed hunting. I shared that I had recently scoped my mauser and was having fun at the range with it...

Unfortunatly a coworker overheard me, the conservative white guy, talking about guns and hunting. Sure enough the next day my supervisor and the HR queen called me in private and told me that "guns are not an appropriate topic of conversation":cuss: and that if I ever brought my gun to work I'd be fired on the spot. (Now a surplus Mauser with a scope isn't even concealable unless you're a pirate). I decided that if I was fired it might as well be then and told them that I'd never be stuped enough to bring a rifle to work and that I felt I was being singled out and descriminated against for my life style. I stated that this firearm policy was not in writing and unless it was made know company wide I would have to persue legal action for their descrimination!:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Those are scarey thing to say to a socialist californian type. I said the magic words (the red ones) that make lawyer smile and human resource types cringe.

I found a new job the next week, nothing felt better than telling that employeer, ":cuss: off, I quit!"

Since I had secured me job for a while in that private meeting, I put on my resume that my interests included; mountain biking, fishing, hunting, and target shooting. My new boss goes hunting and owns a 50 bmg! Good enough for me, but I did learn my lesson, if I ever can carry, it will never be talked about and it will most certainly not be noticeable.
 
You must live at the wrong end of the state, Kungfu

North of San Fran most of the counties are very liberal with CCW. The DA here (who unfortunatley just died) never turned down anyone that was eligible. You missed the chance to throw in the First Amendment and really hit them where it hurts!
 
I often catch people "packing" via bulges or prints but I don't say anything to them. I agree when someone said that she probably packed to. Next time she or anyone asks if you're carrying say hell yeah and give'm a peek. :D
 
to dm1333

I could have been more hostile, but my whole arguement was 1st amendment based, had I been talking about closing the border:D instead of guns/hunting I would have gotten the same "fun":scrutiny: meeting. The discrimination, life style arguement is definatly freedom of speech/ expression. Had I argued that I, along with all men, have a right endowed by our Creator to keep and bear arms they would have laughed and pointed out that the property owner decides if I can have a gun on his land and not God. Also they could have said my choice of conversation was creating a hostile work enviornment. I wanted to avoid this and just let them know I'm no idiot, that they couldn't just push me around! And of course buy time until I found a better job.

It's okay, my replacement emailed the entire office tripple x porn photos:what: , can you say law suit!:neener:

But my point was the fewer that know the better

Oh and to get a ccw here in San Bernardino County isn't "too hard" according to L.E. friends, but in Riverside it's nearly imposible, there you need to be ex military/cop or the vicitim of a violent crime (once you're the victim it's too late for a ccw)
 
so she asks

"what are you packing?"

You say "A big ole gun miss/ma'am/(whatever respectfully appropriate), but this here's just my lil old pistol." ;) Could your restate your question please?

Yeah, it's a real risk to share that info, but if she looked that closely, she wanted more than just your pistol.... Okay, I'm fantasizing about being single and available and able to flirt like that. But if a woman noticed that, she had more in mind than what's around your waist. She was trying to flirt with you and was "impressed" with a man with a gun....sexy, he'll protect me type stuff is my bet.


jeepmor
 
When you take off your pants to do the deed, do you leave on the shoulder holster in case something happens?

One shouldn't go totally into condition white (or the color of a backside of some). Or might the lady in question wonder why you are still wearing your shirt and cover garment.

However, this is as reasonable a scenario as our usual zombie or tactical toilet behavior. :evil: :neener:
 
Doug.38PR:

The Colt Official Police is a great revolver, and I have carried one concealed if anyone cares. ;)

But it is not the best choice if deep concealment is the order of the day. A shoulder holster isn't either if the gun is concealed under a lightweight jacket.

In your circumstances you need to reconsider your options, both in a choice of handguns and also the method of carry. That includes extra ammunition if you think your ammo pouches gave you away. This time you got away with it, but on another occasion you might not be so lucky.

Remember, concealed means just that... Concealed.
 
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