"I only want a pistol that's made to injure someone ... not kill him"

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I'll be glad when they come out with a weapon that simply stops an attacker in their tracks...and a 'justice' system that prosecutes accordingly.

Until then, we have lethal firearms.
 
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"My 10-year-old daughter is looking over my shoulder as I read this thread. She says, “Give her a squirt gun filled with lemon juice.”

Lemon scented chlorine bleach works better.:D

Have your sister join us here. We'll learn her right.
 
Not to divert this on a non-lethal tangent, but Habanero pepper can be excessively hot (750,000 schovilles in some hot sauces. Also banned from police departments due to non-recoverable eye injuries, from what I understand). Get a mix of habanero hot sauce and vinegar in a sprayer. If they don't claw their own eyes out to stop the pain, they'll probably need glasses. My room-mate once tear-gassed himself while making habanero hot sauce. Took him two days to see clearly again.

Not that I'm advocating the option of blinding them for life if someone attacks you. By all means, shoot if you're armed and they are a threat. I just thought I'd put out a special recipe I like to whip up from time to time.:D
 
My sister attends college at Purdue in Indiana. Recently some sicko kidnapped a girl for the day and basically tortured her.

So she thought about getting a gun but then realized if she was attacked they would take it from her and use it against her.:rolleyes:

When I suggested pepper spray or a taser she said the same thing.:rolleyes:

I just wish she would carry something. I wanted to give her my P2000sk but she said she does not want a gun.:banghead:

Where do liberals come up with this kind of logic? Wouldnt every small female policewoman have her gun taken from her by a larger male criminal? I mean thats what the logic says? But since she is a policeman the magic in her shield protects her. (THis is no slam against police but against antis.)

Its frustrating to watch people you love just baa away with the rest of the sheep.
 
Always shoot only to STOP

And there are two STOP switches. One located approximately center mass (kind of small, may take multiple shots to locate properly) the other is located at the junction of the bridge of the nose and the forehead and is often marked by the meeting of the eyebrows. Shoot one of those and the threat stops. Severe injury and death may follow but are only side effects of correct use of the STOP buttons. :)
 
If she doesn't know much about guns it is an easy conclusion to make that since some guns use big bullets and some fire small bullets that the smaller ones aren't made to kill. She probably knows that even the small ones are deadly, just make that clear to her. Having done that, let her pick out something she likes, the quickest way to turn someone off is to start them on a 38 snubbie!
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My wifes first pistol was a .38 snubbie. Now she wants to buy every dang one that she can find. I have created an addict.
 
My CCW instructor (who was awesome) came right out of the gate in the first few minutes of the class and offered this up to the students:

(I paraphrase)

"If you are absolutely certain that you would be unable or unwilling to kill another human being threatening you or your family with serious bodily harm or death, please see me at the break and I'll be happy to issue you a refund for the class. This course is probably not for you"
 
I hear this question or discuss this topic in the classes I give from time to time. When I hear someone suggest wounding an agressor instead of killing the agressor I use the wounded animal analogy. I say invision you are on a hike thru the woods where there is a mountain lion and bear problem. You are carrying a handgun in case the animal problem confronts you. A black bear lumbers into your path and won;t go away so you shoot him in the leg because you "don;t want to kill the poor bear" he is enraged at the attack and eats you....you loose. This does work because an attacker bent on killing you is not ever incapacited when "shot to wound" he is just further enraged to kill instead of hurt.
 
Like I said on another thread- "Stop the threat in the head". :evil:
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mike101, I must have laughed out loud for 10 minutes when I read that last night in the "Mouseguns..." thread... That might have to get "borrowed" for my Sig line - with you getting the credit, of course. :D
 
I think what she wants is the ability to stop an attacker without the whole liability, or guilt issue. I'm obviously just guessing. Guilt I could throw out the window because I would never sympathize with some idiot trying to harm my family or myself. Liability........now there's a conversation. The way the laws work in this country a man could be tried for shooting someone that was stabbing him in his own bed at 3 in the morning. Either way, if you only want to wound someone, a gun is certainly not the best choice. Kimber makes some highly rated less than lethal tools. (I know what you're thinking) I'm just throwing it out there.
 
LOL, you don't live in San Francisco

For us guys it's very logical to meet deadly force with deadly force, but chicks don't think the same as us.
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I have met tons of guys that say you need to talk to the killer climbing thru yer window.
 
Wimmenz Think Different

Well, yeah!

For all you married dudes, would you want to be on the wrong end of Mr. Browning's invention with your angry wife on the other?

When it all goes down, I'm gonna bet on the "DIE, YOU BASTARD!" response from the wimmenz.

Does anyone here remember the unfortunate burglar who challenged the lady of the house with "you don't have the [nerve] to pull the trigger?"

"Shoot to injure," indeed. In your dreams.

And if kidz are involved, wimmenz can get downright MEAN.
 
Wow...a lot of responses. Two things..

The 10 year old girl with the "water gun with lemon juice", that made me laugh out loud! Thank you.

Second, I just remembered, when I showed her the black Ladies S&W, she said, "That is the cutest gun I've ever seen".

She really is missing the point, but if looks of a gun will get her foot in the door...then so be it. Like I said originally, she has several friends in uniform that would take her to shoot....she also wants to take the CCW class, so she will be getting some training. And like most older brothers/sisters...she won't listen to what her younger brother has to say.
 
Do not encourage someone that only wants to injure to be armed with a firearm. That would take excellent aim, and be illegal as in our wise legal system someone claiming they didn't feel in enough danger to warrant lethal force could be construed to be implying shooting was not necessary by a prosecutor.

Encouraging someone to be armed that is not likely to use or decide to use the firearm when confronted with lethal force will just have it taken away. At that point you will have hurt them more by insiting they be armed with a gun than allowing them to find something else they were more likely to use. The bad guy will now also be additionaly armed for further violence against them and/or against other individuals.
A firearm is only defense if someone is willing to use it, otherwise it is more of a liability.
 
Non-survival mindset.

Don't take this the wrong way, but some that is confronted with deadly violence and is not willing to do what they have to do, to survive, is a self- correcting problem. They won't.

But don't mind me. I once told a shift captain that if someone wanted to commit "suicide by cop" I was willing to accommodate them. Meaning that if they put me in the position of me or them, they lose.

I am a lonely person. Someone wants to send me to the hospital or morgue, I have no intention of going alone.
 
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