New range rule: give us your DL

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Most states will issue State ID cards. Now I don't know if they will issue and ID card if you already have a drivers license (which is the primary form of identification nationwide), but it is one of the only valid forms of ID for those without a DL.

I don't go to public ranges, I walk back to my neighbor's property where he has a range set up, so I don't have to deal with that sort of BS. Plus it's a lot closer.
 
Haven't heard of this, But then again I have only outdoor ranges where I am. So, No problem with that. I had to sign a waiver form but I don't remember had to showing my license.
 
That's far from unusual for me. They need a Driver's License for identification so you can confirm that you are legal for shooting and that you are indeed who you claim to be.
 
If you think that any of the information contained in your driver's license is not readily available to anyone with just a little bit of technical savvy, you're living far from reality my friend. The age of "privacy" as it used to be known is long gone.
 
Bars sometimes use this practice of holding DL's to keep people from skipping out on their tabs. So do people who rent Wave Runners and Hobbie Cats at the beach. This is nothing new.
 
Always in Broward or Palm Beach, never up here in Vero. Just sign in.
 
Bars sometimes use this practice of holding DL's to keep people from skipping out on their tabs
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I don't think I've ever been to a place that did that, here they always keep your credit card/check card, that you get back when you close out.
 
You think your driver's license info is private ?

Better check with your state.

Every state I know sells Driver's License info to anyone who wants it.
Mailing lists, etc etc.
That's how your DMV makes extra money.
It is considered public record, anyone can get it for the asking.

Same is true for voter registration.

In the vast majority of states, there is no privacy regarding public record,
unless a specific state law is passed to protect it (like CCW information).


If you're freaky about personal info, you better check with your state DMV.
 
The ranges around me do it. I don't see what the big deal is besides forgetting it when you walk out. To me there are more important things than worrying about someone having my license behind a counter for an hour or two.

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My DL has no more information on it than is already available in the public domain. It does not contain a SSN or any other info directly useful in exploiting my finances.

Having said that, it's been my experience that most ranges that sell memberships do not collect DLs since they already have your personal info on file.
 
Anything contributory to say, instead of being a smarty pants?
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I believe name calling is against the rules here on the high road, in case you missed that. I believe I did contribute. I made the point that this whole issue is a tin foil hat isssue. There is none. Blown out of proportion.

Or wait, maybe I should use some third grade language like "smarty pants" so that some can understand it, would that help you any?
 
I have been using indoor ranges for more than 30 years and I can't recall any of them not holding your DL until your done and ready to check out. Never have had any problem with it all these years.
 
I'm glad I don't go day to day thinking everyone is out to get me. My ranges only hold your ID if you are renting firearms but I would have no issue giving up my ID to shoot. I think this is part of the older generation not understanding that any info on your ID is easily available online anyway. But if holding on to that license makes you safe, who am I to judge?...
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Well said.

A big part of my job is handling ID theft and fraud for customers of a large bank. Not letting some one hold on to your id does virtually nothing to protect you.

I do encourge people to do what makes them feel secure, because peace of mind is worth a lot. But I also encourage everyone to keep up with correct information.

That guy standing behind you when you pull out your license can take a picture of it with their phone.

And DL# are really not a big deal. The major thing is your SS#. Think about how many companies have your SS# on file. Now think about how many employees work at those companies who have the ability to get your SS#.

You can drive yourself crazy worring and go out of your way to proctect yourself and all you will acomplish is making things more inconvienient for yourself and some joe trying to do his job.
 
Looking at the DL to verify, NBD. But I should not have to "surrender" it. That'd piss me off enough to walk out, imo.
 
A big part of my job is handling ID theft and fraud for customers of a large bank. Not letting some one hold on to your id does virtually nothing to protect you.
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That's not really the point, at least to me. It's a basic respect thing, IMO
 
Thanks to all for taking the time to respond. I especially appreciate those who took the time to read my post and respond to my questions. While I wrote the OP attempting to avoid another debate of personal privacy issues, many of the responses show that I was not successful in that regard. I will promise to try to be more thoughtful and careful in starting any threads in the future.
 
I've never seen so many men whine. They ask for your ID when you buy a pack of cigarettes and your going to cry because a range asks for it before you use their property to fire a weapon? If someone is coming to use your property to shoot, wouldn't you want to know who they were?

Get out your tinfoil hats....it must be a conspiracy.
 
I am also curious if this practice is in place elsewhere?
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One local range does collect them and one does not. The one that does not already has the information on file.

Are the owners taking on a risk by collecting the DLs?
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I suppose the information on a DL probably differs from state to state, but mine has nothing on it that I didn't hand to the McD's drive-thru teenager on the way to the range.

How would having someone's DL make it easier for the owners to collect damages? Would not the individual simply be able to get a replacement DL?
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If something unfortunate were to happen the operators of the range would be able to positively identify you. If the range rents guns it would deter theft.

I think this is part of the older generation not understanding that any info on your ID is easily available online anyway.
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I don't think that is entirely correct. I think that if you look for a line dividing the two schools of thought, age might not be as definitive as you think.
 
I'm not too worried about surrendering a DL. It can't be any worse than a merchant getting your credit card information when you make a purchase.
 
I've never had a range even ask to see ID, but they do want to hold my DL as security for rental items. Only one that wants name, address, phone and emergancy contact info.

My only concern would be what info may be accessable on some of the newer DL's with encoded strips or RFID chips that might not be general public info.
 
My local indoor range holds your dl till your done shooting.......no big deal as far as I'm concerned. Nothing there that someone can't get off internet background check for $40 bucks and most likely allot less!:D
 
Thanks to all for taking the time to respond. I especially appreciate those who took the time to read my post and respond to my questions. While I wrote the OP attempting to avoid another debate of personal privacy issues, many of the responses show that I was not successful in that regard. I will promise to try to be more thoughtful and careful in starting any threads in the future.
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You are correct most of us ignored your question and turned this into something you did not intend. I apologize for that.

How would having someone's DL make it easier for the owners to collect damages? Would not the individual simply be able to get a replacement DL?
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You could potenital give that to the police and they could use it to attempt to locate you. Also, it would help in proving you were there and did the damage (or stole whatever it is)

Are the owners taking on a risk by collecting the DLs? What happens if the DL is mishandled ( given back to the wrong person, information lifted,...) or the person leaves without it?
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If one of the worker's used it or faked it to do something (like write bad checks) you should be fine as long as you have reported it lost and got a new one. The worst thing could be you would have to fill out some affidavt to clear your name.

I am also curious if this practice is in place elsewhere? I checked previous threads through the search function and did not come up with much, so I'm guessing this is not common.
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The place I go to does not keep it but they do make copies.
 
Mine holds your DL while you shoot. The one I used to use in Indiana did as well
 
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