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I remember the SCOTUS case that ruled the police do not have to help citizens, but I don't know the name. Does anyone?

I think one of those cases had to do with a guy trapped in a car, the police took like 45 minutes to get there, he died, his family sued, court said police don't have to show up.

Anyone have any cites?
 
I do not remember the case name either, but I do know exactly what you are talking about. In fact, I was talking to my wife about this last night.

The only crime the police are obliged to investigate is child abuese.
 
Anyone know this(these) case(s)?


I think police are still obligated to investigate crimes, they just don't have to show up in any time frame or perform to any standard once they're there. They still may get fired by the department, but they can't be sued or tried for a crime. To refuse to investigate a crime would be extreme deriliction of duty.



I actually sort of like that decision, but dislike it for other reasons.

First, there is no legal precedent for suing someone because they were not able to save you.

Second, and perhaps most importantly, it makes people realize that they ultimately are responsible for themselves and their own defense, and that they cannot count on others for anything. It shows that government cannot protect you, no matter how many of your rights you are willing to give up in return. (Maybe this is just me hopefully dreaming, especially since about 3/4 of the American public is not functionally literate enough even to read and understand a Supreme Court case.)

Third, it makes people who want to take our guns but at the same time realize cops won't or can't always protect us look like idiots.




However, I'm sure it will eventually let some morons off the hook who were frequenting the local cheerleading practice while some poor schmuck bled and died.

And then there's the saying "with great power comes great responsibility." So I don't know why we as a society are required to give extraordinary power to people but then absolve them of responsibility.
 
I went to the local pawn shop and bought her a Model 10

I would have the weapon legally transfered to her. You are risking civil liability if she uses it and you lent/gave it to her.
 
the case

was the case your refering to the one in dc where 2 girls called 911 when house was broken into. the cops showed up walked around didn't knock and left.meanwhile the guys raped the girls all nite.
probably about 10 years ago they sued and lost. typical dc police response
 
"Dial 911 and Die"


This book has cases from all 50 states that show how the government and police are not obliged to protect an individual. It also points out how some states are better than others in this area.

That DC case you cite is covered.
 
LEO bashing/real world incidents

I agree with parts of your post. I have respect for many sworn LEOs. Many of these men and women work hard and do the LE job the right way.

I posted a real documented incident from where I lived in the Pittsburgh PA area 6 yrs ago. In FEB/2000 a crazy guy shot up a few fast food places about 3 blocks from the borough's police station. The local PD had 34 sworn full time LEOs. The police did not get on scene of this active shooter for nearly 20min! :eek:

The police took a big PR hit for this screw up but they deserved it! :cuss:

A normal person could walk at a casual pace and go from the police office to the first crime scene in about 4/5min.

This is why many citizens carry concealed weapons!

PS: The police chief of this PD went on the Today show and talked a lot of BS. He was later convicted for stealing drug money, :uhoh:

Rusty S
 
I am a little confused...

From the way you wrote this, she called you or her sister before calling the police?????

I have a hard time wrapping my head around an hours response time to a break-in in progress of an occupied home.
 
The S&W model 10 I decided wasn't a good thing to have in her hands. She wasn't thinking on her toes and only get into trouble with it. I decided to keep it, and actually sold it to a friend shortly after.

As far as the other question, she called my sister before she called the police.
 
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