Black Majik
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What if you tossed him the cuffs and ordered him to put them on? I think by that time he has a shotgun close to his face he'd be willing to comply.
Not really a gun question but a HD question?
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Docwithglock
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pepper spray or taser the BG about every five or ten minutes until the cops arrive.
I also like Black Majik's idea of tossing the BG the cuffs and telling him to put them on himself.
or give him the cuffs, then taser and spray the guy anyway (he could be about to cause you severe bodily harm by kicking you while cuffed)
I also like Black Majik's idea of tossing the BG the cuffs and telling him to put them on himself.
or give him the cuffs, then taser and spray the guy anyway (he could be about to cause you severe bodily harm by kicking you while cuffed)
Cruiser
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I think the better answer is to not go looking for the bad guy in the first place. When you go moving through the house alone (even your own house), you are at a tremendous disadvantage. First, the intruder is in an unfamiliar area commiting a crime, so every sound is unfamiliar to him (or her) and they are on high alert. Second, it's near impossible to clear a building alone safely against one adversary- if there are more than one, your task has become almost certainly a losing proposition for you.
With two people, clearing the house can be done, but not safely. A minimum of three are required, and you need to know/use the proper techniques. Darkness makes the job at hand even more difficult. When you are moving through the house, there is a multitude of angles you need to be aware of and cover. Every doorway you enter or cross is a huge advantage to your opponent. While you have to worry about every inch of the room inside, the intruder only has to worry about one, 30" area. That's why it's called a "fatal funnel".
Unless you need to make your way to another room to secure children, you are far better off to remain in one place and call 911 (make sure you have a hard-wired phone; cordless is useless if the power goes out/is cut). Cell phones are a good back-up. Now all you need to be aware of is the fatal funnel entering into your room and you have the advantage.
With two people, clearing the house can be done, but not safely. A minimum of three are required, and you need to know/use the proper techniques. Darkness makes the job at hand even more difficult. When you are moving through the house, there is a multitude of angles you need to be aware of and cover. Every doorway you enter or cross is a huge advantage to your opponent. While you have to worry about every inch of the room inside, the intruder only has to worry about one, 30" area. That's why it's called a "fatal funnel".
Unless you need to make your way to another room to secure children, you are far better off to remain in one place and call 911 (make sure you have a hard-wired phone; cordless is useless if the power goes out/is cut). Cell phones are a good back-up. Now all you need to be aware of is the fatal funnel entering into your room and you have the advantage.
chetrogers
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Ok just a Little to add to this conversation.Lets say you wake up in the middle of the knight to a sound you grab your shotgun.Do you stay in your room and call the cops or do you go to you kids room and tell them to come to your room ect..Dont you have a right to protect the whole family..Somebody breaks into my house i feel its my duty to protect everyone in it..I dont think i have a right to go around every corner shooting but i have a right to go to my kids room etc."Not that i have any"and make sure everyone is ok...
Cruiser,
It's all well and good to tell people to barricade themselves in their room with a gun and wait for the cops but it is not practical for those of us with small children. I will NEVER leave my children at the mercy of a psycho who has the cojones to break into an occupied house. I have no choice but to make an armed foray across my house to my kids rooms to protect them, EVERYTHING changes when you have kids. I just have to hope to god I see the bad guy before he sees me. Things will be better when we have our house built and get out of this split plan rental as I will be installing an alarm system in the house and we will all be on the second floor where the BG will have to get through an entire floor and hopefully a dog (will be fighting that battle with the wife when the house gets built).
As to what to do assuming you get the drop on the bad guy and he complies with orders... I would have him lay face down with his arms layed strait out from his shoulders palm up and with his legs crossed at the ankles. That position should give me maximum time to react if he starts to move. I would NEVER, EVER, holster my gun until the police arrived. Anyone that doesn't beleive the BG can get to you and do some damage before/as you draw your gun out of the holster at that close a range needs to get some paintball guns and try the Tueller drill.
It's all well and good to tell people to barricade themselves in their room with a gun and wait for the cops but it is not practical for those of us with small children. I will NEVER leave my children at the mercy of a psycho who has the cojones to break into an occupied house. I have no choice but to make an armed foray across my house to my kids rooms to protect them, EVERYTHING changes when you have kids. I just have to hope to god I see the bad guy before he sees me. Things will be better when we have our house built and get out of this split plan rental as I will be installing an alarm system in the house and we will all be on the second floor where the BG will have to get through an entire floor and hopefully a dog (will be fighting that battle with the wife when the house gets built).
As to what to do assuming you get the drop on the bad guy and he complies with orders... I would have him lay face down with his arms layed strait out from his shoulders palm up and with his legs crossed at the ankles. That position should give me maximum time to react if he starts to move. I would NEVER, EVER, holster my gun until the police arrived. Anyone that doesn't beleive the BG can get to you and do some damage before/as you draw your gun out of the holster at that close a range needs to get some paintball guns and try the Tueller drill.
spartacus2002
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Remember the old guy who caught the burgler and made him mow his lawn? The old guy didn't have a phone, and while he was trying to figure out what to do with the burgler, he told the burgler to mow the lawn while he sat on a lawn chair with a gun thinking out a plan.
If I catch a burgler, and I'm waiting for the cops, I'm making him do some PT: "extend your arms straight out to the sides, parallel to the ground...small circles to the front....now to the rear...."
I'd have him in tears of pain by the time the cops came.
If I catch a burgler, and I'm waiting for the cops, I'm making him do some PT: "extend your arms straight out to the sides, parallel to the ground...small circles to the front....now to the rear...."
I'd have him in tears of pain by the time the cops came.
seeker_two
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Kid's tough luck for being in my house at the wrong time. Besides, I don't drink beer...
I probably wouldn't shoot him, but he'd have a red butt & I'd have a worn-out beltstrap from "educating" him.
Anyone else---gets shot. This is my last warning...
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